Bizarre windshield crack this morning

[ShadowsPapa]

wow! I have warmed mine up with defrost when actual temp was -30. no garage. never had that happen... fingers crossed

Rare, but happens. I've only lost one windshield to that factor. Don't sweat it.

Mine is actually in a garage now - but people think "oh, garage, warm, not that cold, not the same thing".
Yeah, it is. It's not insulated, not heated, not attached, and in the dead of winter the temps in the garage are the same as outside. DUH.

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[Jackpaul]

Gorilla glass is just terrible. Is it still an option on new Jeeps with all the litigation?

 

[TroutFishingInAmerica]

Gorilla Glass? Mabe the factory installed Spider Monkey Glass by mistake?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Gorilla glass is just terrible. Is it still an option on new Jeeps with all the litigation?

Litigation? Example, please.

Why not offer it? There ARE advantages! Safety, for one, lighter, etc. and safer for occupants in accidents by a long shot.

You, like others, totally ignore the facts about it, the positives about it - in favor of the complaints from those not understanding the merits or advantages.
No one said it prevented chips, cracks or broken windshields. If they say exactly that, then they are lying, don't get it - or don't understand what they read. (reading comprehension?)

It's been used by Ford and others for longer times. Seems Jeep people are the ones griping. Well, Jeep Wrangler and Gladiator windshields are far far far far more prone to cracks, chips, and harder hits simply because of their near vertical positioning. Duh. Nothing can prevent chips when the speed and angle of impact are like they are on these - and the fact the GG is the inside layer, not the outside layer.

I guess people are only looking at headlines and never bother reading details. They believe the hype and marketing and never bother doing research.
No wonder big companies can talk people into doing or buying almost anything.

 

[Jackpaul]

Litigation? Example, please.

Why not offer it? There ARE advantages! Safety, for one, lighter, etc. and safer for occupants in accidents by a long shot.

You, like others, totally ignore the facts about it, the positives about it - in favor of the complaints from those not understanding the merits or advantages.
No one said it prevented chips, cracks or broken windshields. If they say exactly that, then they are lying, don't get it - or don't understand what they read. (reading comprehension?)

It's been used by Ford and others for longer times. Seems Jeep people are the ones griping. Well, Jeep Wrangler and Gladiator windshields are far far far far more prone to cracks, chips, and harder hits simply because of their near vertical positioning. Duh. Nothing can prevent chips when the speed and angle of impact are like they are on these - and the fact the GG is the inside layer, not the outside layer.

I guess people are only looking at headlines and never bother reading details. They believe the hype and marketing and never bother doing research.
No wonder big companies can talk people into doing or buying almost anything.

Not debating the anecdotal benefits, i went through four of them before validating my opinion about usage on a Jeep Wrangler or Gladiator. Many of us Jeep folks griping are doing so because of the shit quality noted on our Jeep not a Ford.

BTW buck, before you assume someone just read a headline or owes you rationale ….Look in the mirror and repeat “ I am a narcissist “

 

[Viper501]

I’ve had a sliding glass door literally explode from a differential heating from the sunlight outside. Internal stresses combined with an unbalanced expansion / contraction and a minor chip can easily cause this kind of fracture regardless of gorilla glass or not.

 

[Mister Lamb]

Safelite replacing the windshield w/ Gorilla Glass @ no cost to me. Sticking with the evil I know

 

[joeym7]

Just another (among many) example that GG is no better than non-GG. It may not be any worse, but certainly no better.

 

[sharpsicle]

Litigation? Example, please.

Why not offer it? There ARE advantages! Safety, for one, lighter, etc. and safer for occupants in accidents by a long shot.

You, like others, totally ignore the facts about it, the positives about it - in favor of the complaints from those not understanding the merits or advantages.
No one said it prevented chips, cracks or broken windshields. If they say exactly that, then they are lying, don't get it - or don't understand what they read. (reading comprehension?)

It's been used by Ford and others for longer times. Seems Jeep people are the ones griping. Well, Jeep Wrangler and Gladiator windshields are far far far far more prone to cracks, chips, and harder hits simply because of their near vertical positioning. Duh. Nothing can prevent chips when the speed and angle of impact are like they are on these - and the fact the GG is the inside layer, not the outside layer.

I guess people are only looking at headlines and never bother reading details. They believe the hype and marketing and never bother doing research.
No wonder big companies can talk people into doing or buying almost anything.

So much truth behind this. So many people are looking for it to be 'indestructible' and then go and say that the fact people with GG windshields have had cracks or chips shows it's useless. How? That's some fun logic you're doing there, because unless you're doing a side-by-side statistical analysis of like-for-like events of GG and non-GG windshields, there's absolutely no way you can make that claim. And nobody is doing that. They're going off one singular observation and then trying to say that equates to other singular but situationally different observations. "My GG cracked once, and your non-GG cracked once. Guess it's no different"... it doesn't work that way, that means nothing.

GG will not prevent every piece of damage coming its way. To say "look at the examples, they prove GG isn't better" is just ignorant and misleading. It may not be worth it to you, heck it's not worth it to me, but that's all you can really say. Anything else is anecdotal and devoid of evidence.

To add, I am not saying you should get Gorilla Glass. I personally don't see the value in it for Jeeps and often recommend against it. But that doesn't mean I'm saying it's no better than standard glass. It has benefits. It's unfair not to recognize it for what it is, but sadly that's what many do here out of ignorance or frustration.

 

[Minty JL]

More like Gorilla Trash

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Just another (among many) example that GG is no better than non-GG. It may not be any worse, but certainly no better.

Proof of ignorance of the facts, the testing and so on. Ford has absolutely demonstrated benefits.
You simply hate what you refuse to understand (I can't say it's what you don't understand as I don't know if you just don't get it, or are refusing to get it)
It's absolutely better and that's been proven. Maybe not in what YOU expect of it, but in many tests and years of use by Ford and others - there's proof it's better. I've seen comparisons of vehicles going through hail storms on dealer lots - guess which vehicles had their glass replaced and body work done while others only needed body work done.

Hate based on ignorance is worse than hate based on truth - and most of what I see is hate of something based on ignorance of how it works.
Is everyone believing the cash for clicks youtube experts, or the REAL experts demonstrating fact?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

So much truth behind this. So many people are looking for it to be 'indestructible' and then go and say that the fact people with GG windshields have had cracks or chips shows it's useless. How? That's some fun logic you're doing there, because unless you're doing a side-by-side statistical analysis of like-for-like events of GG and non-GG windshields, there's absolutely no way you can make that claim. And nobody is doing that. They're going off one singular observation and then trying to say that equates to other singular but situationally different observations. "My GG cracked once, and your non-GG cracked once. Guess it's no different"... it doesn't work that way, that means nothing.

GG will not prevent every piece of damage coming its way. To say "look at the examples, they prove GG isn't better" is just ignorant and misleading. It may not be worth it to you, heck it's not worth it to me, but that's all you can really say. Anything else is anecdotal and devoid of evidence.

To add, I am not saying you should get Gorilla Glass. I personally don't see the value in it for Jeeps and often recommend against it. But that doesn't mean I'm saying it's no better than standard glass. It has benefits. It's unfair not to recognize it for what it is, but sadly that's what many do here out of ignorance or frustration.

My 2020 broke due to a teeny chip you could only see under certain light while looking really closely - in the first 6 months. The replacement windshield broke as well - rock hit up high in the center.
I have a small chip on my 2022 GG windshield but no crack - proof it's superior.

There, I'm doing exactly what the glass experts here and on YT are doing.

 

[joeym7]

Proof of ignorance of the facts, the testing and so on. Ford has absolutely demonstrated benefits.
You simply hate what you refuse to understand (I can't say it's what you don't understand as I don't know if you just don't get it, or are refusing to get it)
It's absolutely better and that's been proven. Maybe not in what YOU expect of it, but in many tests and years of use by Ford and others - there's proof it's better. I've seen comparisons of vehicles going through hail storms on dealer lots - guess which vehicles had their glass replaced and body work done while others only needed body work done.

Hate based on ignorance is worse than hate based on truth - and most of what I see is hate of something based on ignorance of how it works.
Is everyone believing the cash for clicks youtube experts, or the REAL experts demonstrating fact?

You have a lot of hate, you hate alternative opinions, so you attack people personally. You used that word several times because you radiate hate it is intrinsic to you. And you do this over and over again in so many threads...You are the only one on the entire internet who ever translated an opposite opinion about a material object into hate...Did you ever consider talking to a professional about your personals issues?

Rather than being overwhelmed by your emotional issues try some independent thinking, if you are capable of it at all...Overcome your ignorance and brand Dogma's the field data we have is not supportive of them.

 

[Not2Late]

Look closely at the bottom of your windshield where the 2 cracks in your last picture dip below the dash. I would bet there is a small chip where those 2 cracks join near the bottom edge of the glass. I've had other vehicles get a small (I'm talking barely visible) rock ding at the window edge which couldn't be seen from the inside due to the black surround coating along the edge of the window. Any miniscule chip near the window edge will easily propagate a crack.

Exactly what happened to me. Small little chip (size of a pimple) at the buttom of the windshield. And then a weather/temperature change (for me it was parking in the sun) caused the crack to begin from that chip.

 

[WambliSka]

I wouldn't poopoo the Gorilla Glass...
I have the HGP Gorilla Glass windshield on my JT, and it withstood several strikes that would've resulted in a crack. It took a pretty severe hit to actually do any major damage.

Kevin

I’m glad it worked for you. And yet mine busted up when a small pebble hit on the highway at only a couple of weeks out of the dealership and Jeep, regardless of published warranty, screwed me and refused to fix it. I will tell that to everyone I meet. Thanks.

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