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You're a retired first responder. That's not what I was expecting.


What about all of those work vehicles that are gps monitored? If I drive like everyone else. I get dinged on my work app for going over the speed limit. Get so many dings and I can kiss my next pay raise good bye along with my job.
Depending on your local county, city, or state jurisdiction and laws. Local judges' interpretation and local situations:

Driving the speed of traffic is safer than what is posted...

If you drive a work vehicle with GPS or are a long haul or short haul driver, etc., then do what you must to stay employed. My point was about personal vehicles traveling at unsafe slow speeds and impeding traffic. For the sake of gas mileage. This 'hypermilage' dealio.

Some good officers will use local laws to maintain safety. Not because it's in the letter of the law but because it is in the spirit of the law to save lives. Such laws considered are : 'Impeding traffic', Unsafe' or 'reckless driving', and 'Gross negligence'.

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If you are driving the speed limit and in the right lane - You are 100% in the right. As long as those two things are true.

super easy to blow away any sort of ticket for driving too slow when going the posted speed limit.
They can't do anything that would hold up unless you were going slower and actually impeding traffic.
Lawyers would have a lot of fun with a ticket for going the speed limit.
Doesn't matter what an officer thinks or says - you can point to the sign and the law - it's on your side.

I'd have a lot of fun with anyone ticketing me for going the posted speed limit in the right lane. (as would my insurance company, attorney and so on)
 

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I noticed a difference going from stock tires on my Overland to the General tires - a bit wider, more aggressive of course.

Winter is 17s to 18s, then warmer weather it jumps up. OF course there's winter fuel, and the weather BOTH impacting MPG. Cold air is denser, more drag, and it's a given that winter blends get worse mpg.

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Sure -ok. Come visit I80 here and see who causes the wrecks. It's not the slower ones in the right lane. Sorry, I go the limit (when my wife is with me) and 9 over when she's not. I've witnessed too much here (and having worked in a shop that towed for Iowa and the local city cops)

Disagree with at least half of your statement.
the asshole going past at 120 is hardly safer. That really had me smiling. They are the ones we see with their vehicle rolled in the ditch because they didn't get slowed for the heavy traffic up ahead. Yeah, saw that. Also have been very nearly rear ended at times - when I was going as fast as traffic would allow - by some ass wanting to go faster.

I'm getting some real fun out of some of the stuff tonight.
I'm talking about accidents and injury to the innocent and to those driving safely. IE, Those driving the speed of traffic.

I bet you towed more vehicles because people drove too slow than too fast. The too fast folks usually just killed themselves. Sure, you remember the corvette going 140 and blew apart in the center divider. You don't remember the last-minute lane change accidents because someone was driving too slow. Those happen all the time.

I was not intending to say that it is safer to drive 120. I was saying that it might be safer to drive 120 than to drive 55 to save gas while all others are driving 80.
 

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Jeebus... Shifting to neutral for hills? Coasting to stops? I get it, we all like to save money, but FFS we drive a heavy box.

Also, cruise control will lower your mpgs because of consistent and often times excessive throttle input, especially in hilly areas. Flatlands I don't see a big difference, but in hilly areas I often see 2-3mpg better NOT using cruise.

You want to stress over mpgs and go through the efforts of hypermilling, well more power to ya, just don't be that ass holding up traffic.
 
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The speed limit on the interstate where I live is 80 mph. If I drove 65 mph I would create a traffic hazard, as well as take all day to get anywhere. At the speed limit here our JTM only gets 14 mpg, which is the same gas mileage our JLUR 392 gets at that speed. So, congrats on the great gas mileage with your JT. Our JT is my wife's daily driver. She loves it, but says it is the worst gas hog she has ever had. I'm ok with gas mileage at this level. A lot of people get excited about gas mileage, but It doesn't even matter in the grand scheme of things. Gasoline is a small expense compared to the other things that siphon away your money, (such as taxes).
Gas mileage only matters when you are overlanding and have 150 miles of dirt, rocks and sand and you are in 4x4 and second or third gear most of the time.
 

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Disingenuous. You're not getting 35 mpg. I can reset the lie-o-meter on my 3.6 gas engine and do the same thing as you did here. With the tank full, your range is only showing 452, because your Jeep knows you are getting roughly 20 mpg.
35 5 would be awesome I get 25 to 26 in my Jtrd with 37's doing the speed limits which is 80 that's hand calculated the best my wife gets in her 2022 Jlurd us 30.6 but that's average for her she drives like the grandma she is lol
 

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So you all missed the point. My truck said fill up. You have 18 miles left. You are on E. My truck lied to me.
Beats the shit out of telling you that you have 18 miles left when you are sitting on the side of the road out of gas!🤨
 

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Jeebus... Shifting to neutral for hills? Coasting to stops? I get it, we all like to save money, but FFS we drive a heavy box.

Also, cruise control will lower your mpgs because of consistent and often times excessive throttle input, especially in hilly areas. Flatlands I don't see a big difference, but in hilly areas I often see 2-3mpg better NOT using cruise.

You want to stress over mpgs and go through the efforts of hypermilling, well more power to ya, just don't be that ass holding up traffic.
Cruise control gets me better mpg unless I would drive with my speed varying wildly...as in gaming speed going down then letting it drop speed going up hills. And that pisses people off.
 

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I think my Hypermiler Control Module is broken as I'm only getting 14.7 ave. 😒
 

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I'm currently doing R&D on a new product that replaces the accelerator with a toggle switch. Because, for me, there are only two settings on the gas pedal: "Off" and "To The Floor"

Money I got. Time is precious.

God, fate, I-Ching or whatever the hell you wanna call it has gifted me only so many minutes on this earth. And I'll be damned if I'm gonna piss 'em away staring at the bumper of the OP
 

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I bought my 2021 willys gladiator 1 month ago. It had 28100 miles on it. Now it has 30800 miles. Loaded. I wanted a convertible but needed a truck. WIN WIN. I started hypermiling it. Shift into neutral on all down hills, I do the speed limit, 65 on interstate, locked in CC in 8th gear. I think I confused the computer. You can see in the pictures for my proof. I hopped in and gas gauge said LOW, 15 MILE RANGE. So I filled up. It took 18.1 gallons. I got 367 miles on that 18.1 gallons. It said my new range was 405 miles. Im pretty sure i could get 425 to 450 miles using a FULL TANK OF FUEL. The actual 22 gallons. Anyway, I am running the AT tires at 37psi. I am loving these numbers. And yes, I do take it off road, no rock crawls, just hills, mud and dirt. I am absolutely loving this vehicle. And this is my first Jeep. I just turned 55.

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I get that on winter blend just bopping around in my stone stock Overland (ordered 5/19, delivered 7/19). I get one mile to the gallon more on summer blend gas. Best ever seen on the highway was in the high upper 26's. That was on pure interstate with the cruise set at 70 MPH.
 

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The key to Jeeps getting 20mpg is 50-60mph. Anything higher and it drops like a rock.
All about the wind ,Mine has 119k on it I'm lifted 2.5" on 35x12.50x17's and I am still getting 18.1mpg it is all about the wind resistance and speed. I travel 10 miles at 65mph and the rest is 45 to 50mph and that's what I get now I think that's good for a 4.10 rearend. This pic was 4 weeks ago

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If you are driving the speed limit and in the right lane - You are 100% in the right. As long as those two things are true.

super easy to blow away any sort of ticket for driving too slow when going the posted speed limit.
They can't do anything that would hold up unless you were going slower and actually impeding traffic.
Lawyers would have a lot of fun with a ticket for going the speed limit.
Doesn't matter what an officer thinks or says - you can point to the sign and the law - it's on your side.

I'd have a lot of fun with anyone ticketing me for going the posted speed limit in the right lane. (as would my insurance company, attorney and so on)
That is the mentality. "It's all about ME". It is not about everyone else's safety. "I am within my rights and following the law. The rest of them be damned".

The Hypermiler says: "Gwad Damn, the speed limit is 65 and I will go 65 no matter what to save gas. Those assholes can drive around me. I am within my rights". While he is causing accidents and being a nuisance on the highway. After watching crashes behind him in the rear-view mirror, he arrives home, Scot free. "Oh, look, I saved one mile per gallon". As his insurance rates will soon go up.

Please, be kind to others.
Go with the flow, swim with the school. Save lives no matter what gas saving plan you have been following,
 

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That is the mentality. "It's all about ME". It is not about everyone else's safety. "I am within my rights and following the law. The rest of them be damned".

The Hypermiler says: "Gwad Damn, the speed limit is 65 and I will go 65 no matter what to save gas. Those assholes can drive around me. I am within my rights". While he is causing accidents and being a nuisance on the highway. After watching crashes behind him in the rear-view mirror, he arrives home, Scot free. "Oh, look, I saved one mile per gallon". As his insurance rates will soon go up.

Please, be kind to others.
Go with the flow, swim with the school. Save lives no matter what gas saving plan you have been following,
Sorry but that's funny. Lawyers and others say - as long as you aren't going UNDER the speed limit to the extent that you impede traffic, you are fine. No one can force you to go over and in some places, you can get pulled over and ticketed - one out of hundreds, if they choose. You can be ticketed for exceeding the speed limit even if many others around you are doing so.

It's the others who are the risk, not the person driving the speed limit. I won't risk my insurance or a ticket for anyone. It's their problem and it truly is, if I am not going so much under the limit as to be a problem. Go look up the laws - no one can ticket you for sticking to the speed limit. Only if you are so much under as to be a risk or impede traffic. Doesn't matter how you think, it's the law.

If they want to fly around, it's their problem, quite literally. No one can force you to break traffic laws "because everyone else is doing it". About that time, YOU get the ticket. And if in an accident, your insurance company may have a problem with you as well.

From an attorney - It is generally assumed that the posted speed limit is the safest maximum speed for any given stretch of road.

There are times that the masses are incorrect. What about THEM being kind and safe?Eh?

These days of "black boxes" and so on - who knows what goes to who in some accident situation. but you can always defend yourself if you are only going the posted limit (assuming conditions actually permit that speed)
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