Diesel Tuners Indicted for smuggling...

[NotInStock]

Too take things a bit back to the actual thread topic.

As long as someone has a need and is willing to pay for it. Someone else will find a way to supply that need.

Really if the emissions requirements were removed you would not see someone smuggling the stuff. Even going another step we all know how much you want to do something when someone tells you you cannot

Sponsored

 

[Figmo]

I find it odd that most smog-related modifications come with the "For Off Road Use" disclaimer, yet it's never the consumer that they go after, when it's the consumer who actually commits the violation. My thoughts on that are because the consumer doesn't have a large pile of money; the companies do. Sorta of feels like it's more about a money-grab than actually trying to make the air cleaner doesn't it?

I’m no expert on EPA regs but my thought is that the EPA has no actual authority over individuals. Only businesses.

I would think there would have to be an actual federal LAW passed that forbids modifications to vehicle exhaust, tunes, etc. before a private citizen could be arrested. And I do not believe that there is.

Commerce, however, is regulated by the federal government (for better or worse) and that might be the distinction that grants them enforcement and arrest powers over manufacturers and retailers.

Hence, the focus on business and not consumers.

Similar to the mask mandates during the pandemic. It was never aimed at the individual. Always the businesses. Which, in turn, were forced to make the choice between enforcing it themselves on their customers (using existing “trespassing” laws) or face the wrathful hammer of government regulation enforcement.

But certainly you are right in that the “money grab” is always a nice side effect when they can get it (and they always seem to)

 

[Hootbro]

I’m no expert on EPA regs but my thought is that the EPA has no actual authority over individuals. Only businesses.

I would think there would have to be an actual federal LAW passed that forbids modifications to vehicle exhaust, tunes, etc. before a private citizen could be arrested. And I do not believe that there is.

Commerce, however, is regulated by the federal government (for better or worse) and that might be the distinction that grants them enforcement and arrest powers over manufacturers and retailers.

Hence, the focus on business and not consumers.

Similar to the mask mandates during the pandemic. It was never aimed at the individual. Always the businesses. Which, in turn, were forced to make the choice between enforcing it themselves on their customers (using existing “trespassing” laws) or face the wrathful hammer of government regulation enforcement.

But certainly you are right in that the “money grab” is always a nice side effect when they can get it (and they always seem to)

You have some misplaced beliefs if you think it does not apply to or cannot be enforced against individuals.

https://www.epa.gov/enforcement/criminal-provisions-clean-air-act

 

[Figmo]

You have some misplaced beliefs if you think it does not apply to or cannot be enforced against individuals.

https://www.epa.gov/enforcement/criminal-provisions-clean-air-act

As I said - not an expert. But I did read that link. Interesting.

Question: why does that law repeatedly refer to a “stationary source”? That doesn’t sound like a motor vehicle to me. Sounds more like incinerators, power plants, burn pits, etc

There is a section in there that mentions “modifying of monitoring devices”. But again, given that the context of the entire rest of that page specifically talks about “a stationary source”, not sure one could make the leap of assuming that also applies to motor vehicles.

 

[whysoserious]

As I said - not an expert. But I did read that link. Interesting.

Question: why does that law repeatedly refer to a “stationary source”? That doesn’t sound like a motor vehicle to me. Sounds more like incinerators, power plants, burn pits, etc

There is a section in there that mentions “modifying of monitoring devices”. But again, given that the context of the entire rest of that page specifically talks about “a stationary source”, not sure one could make the leap of assuming that also applies to motor vehicles.

I think you would be looking more towards 42 U.S.C. § 7522(a)(3), which talks about any person removing or installing motor vehicle parts.

 

[biodiesel]

I think you would be looking more towards 42 U.S.C. § 7522(a)(3), which talks about any person removing or installing motor vehicle parts.

I would add this as well: Basic Information on Enforcement | US EPA

Interestingly, the federal government leaves a lot of enforcement and regulation to the states. States use emissions testing as their method of enforcement. However, many states, like mine, don't have any enforcement outside of the big city. I could buy a new 2024 today, delete it tomorrow, and there would be no consequences.

 

[RubiNewbCB]

Patiently waiting for D.O.G.E. to gut the E.P.A.

EPA employees should learn how to weld so they can work the fields and the pipelines. Or maybe computer programming.

 

[Rusty PW]

Patiently waiting for D.O.G.E. to gut the E.P.A.

EPA employees should learn how to weld so they can work the fields and the pipelines. Or maybe computer programming.

Need to learn on how to code. As one person put it to the coal miners.

 

[RubiNewbCB]

Need to learn on how to code. As one person put it to the coal miners.

Exactly

 

[BlackRuby23]

...

I think you guys need to define “emissions”… the fact that diesel makes soot tells me that the carbon is coming out solid and will just go into the soil.

So?

Carbon's abundance, its unique diversity of organic compounds, and its unusual ability to form polymers at the temperatures commonly encountered on Earth, enables this element to serve as a common element of all known life. It is the second most abundant element in the human body by mass (about 18.5%) after oxygen.

Sponsored