Export Tail lights on NA Spec Gladiator

[mjoneil]

Jumping back to the rear fogs.
I spoke with someone from Tazer over the weekend (didn't catch their name) and they are going to look into being able to enable/activate the rear fogs. They've seen it in the BCM, just never added it as a user feature.

Also got my harness in (68349976AC) - this harness is for the license plate lights only (no parksense sensors), which was already confirmed in this thread that it's the same plug for the rear fogs. It has a 90 degree bend to it but it's just a plastic clip so it comes off if you want. It will fit into the rear fog light either way...

This is the only body harness I'm going to pin it to just incase the rear bumper ever needs to come off. This is my existing rear bumper harness, which is mounted/connected on the frame right near the exhaust. For US models, it will be pinned as follows.

pin1: LICENSE PLATE LAMP DRIVER
pin2: empty
pin3: empty
pin4: GROUND

I went ahead and grounded the rear fogs then pinned them into the existing bumper harness.
So now it is pinned as follows:

pin1: LICENSE PLATE LAMP DRIVER
pin2: FOG RR LAMP FEED 2
pin3: REAR FOG LAMP FEED
pin4: GROUND

That was the easy part. From here, I pinned the other side of the harness and ran it all the way up through the passenger firewall near the BCM.

Now I just need to wire them to the BCM as follows
pin2 from rear bumper harness(FOG RR LAMP FEED 2) --> pin 39 on BCM C5/E
pin3 from rear bumper harness( REAR FOG LAMP FEED) --> pin 5 on BCM C6/F

I went ahead and bought the BCM harness's off eBay because I could not for the life of me find the corrects pin size. This came off a 2015 grand cherokee but there are 40+ models that I found that share this same BCM. Example - he's sending me the 7 harnesses with cut wires:

Once those harnesses come in and I hear from Tazer about adding that feature, I will let you know if all our knowledge paid off! haha

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[flipmode]

I think I've found the plugs for the BCM position E and F, they appear to be Delphi plugs, and they take 1.2mm and 2.8mm wire terminals:

Plug Site:
https://ecat.aptiv.com/product/13850165

Terminal Supplier (Mouser):
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Aptiv-formerly-Delphi/10757690-L/?qs=hiffU4J9V6bMC0DGBs0lZw==

 

[Hbfieldii]

Jumping back to the rear fogs.
I spoke with someone from Tazer over the weekend (didn't catch their name) and they are going to look into being able to enable/activate the rear fogs. They've seen it in the BCM, just never added it as a user feature.

Also got my harness in (68349976AC) - this harness is for the license plate lights only (no parksense sensors), which was already confirmed in this thread that it's the same plug for the rear fogs. It has a 90 degree bend to it but it's just a plastic clip so it comes off if you want. It will fit into the rear fog light either way...

This is the only body harness I'm going to pin it to just incase the rear bumper ever needs to come off. This is my existing rear bumper harness, which is mounted/connected on the frame right near the exhaust. For US models, it will be pinned as follows.

pin1: LICENSE PLATE LAMP DRIVER
pin2: empty
pin3: empty
pin4: GROUND

I went ahead and grounded the rear fogs then pinned them into the existing bumper harness.
So now it is pinned as follows:

pin1: LICENSE PLATE LAMP DRIVER
pin2: FOG RR LAMP FEED 2
pin3: REAR FOG LAMP FEED
pin4: GROUND

That was the easy part. From here, I pinned the other side of the harness and ran it all the way up through the passenger firewall near the BCM.

Now I just need to wire them to the BCM as follows
pin2 from rear bumper harness(FOG RR LAMP FEED 2) --> pin 39 on BCM C5/E
pin3 from rear bumper harness( REAR FOG LAMP FEED) --> pin 5 on BCM C6/F

I went ahead and bought the BCM harness's off eBay because I could not for the life of me find the corrects pin size. This came off a 2015 grand cherokee but there are 40+ models that I found that share this same BCM. Example - he's sending me the 7 harnesses with cut wires:

Once those harnesses come in and I hear from Tazer about adding that feature, I will let you know if all our knowledge paid off! haha

jScan already has that feature to turn on the rear fog. You push the button once front dogs activate, push it again rears turn on, push again rears turn off, and finally one more push turns front fogs off. That according to the lights on the dash that light up.

Edit: it’s a one time flash and done with JScan.

 

[Hbfieldii]

So I tested out the light. So without any rewiring they will work as a brake and turn signal in only the upper portion of the tail light. The Amber I still need to figure out how to get that one to work.
These light will be forsale shortly since I ordered the ones and these are not the ones with the Blind spot and I won’t be able to swap it over.
But already love how they look.
lit was -10 today so I had to find a parking garage to just test fit and do them. The lack of having anywhere to work on my truck, besides being out doors and my work schedule is being a consistent delay on progressing all all these export projects. But rest assured I will get them all wired up and working like OEM.

I decided to go the Quake LED route instead of euro spec. But when I installed them (I went from halogen to quake led) I not only had to activate my led over halogen. But also I went it and had to go change from US Spec tails to Euro tails. Which stopped my blinker and brake flashing together. Other wise I didn’t do and rewiring. I know it’s different then factory but worth a shot be fore changing wiring up.
I used JScan for my setting adjustments

 

[mjoneil]

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jScan already has that feature to turn on the rear fog. You push the button once front dogs activate, push it again rears turn on, push again rears turn off, and finally one more push turns front fogs off. That according to the lights on the dash that light up.

Edit: it’s a one time flash and done with JScan.

My issue is that I already have the tazer, if I can avoid having to invest $$ into JSCAN as well, that would be nice.

 

[Penecalea]

So good news and bad news. Good news is my tail lights finally showed up. Bad news is I messed up and ordered export tail lights without the blind spot. I mixed up the numbers when I ordered them and didn’t notice. I’m hoping I can figure a way to transfer the blind spot modules over to them.

JTRUBI. How much are you selling them for ?

 

[JTRUBI]

JTRUBI. How much are you selling them for ?

$800 CDN. What I paid for them. Retail is just over $1000.

 

[mjoneil]

Gentlemen....... we DID IT! Fogs are wired to BCM and work like OE!!

1st click: Front fogs on

2nd click: Front and Rear fogs on

3rd click: Front fogs only again

4th click: all off

 

[flipmode]

@mjoneil, oh wow, excellent work man! - thanks for your help in piecing together the process for us!

 

[Jeepman_94]

Did you use your Tazer or did you get JSCAN?

 

[mjoneil]

@mjoneil, oh wow, excellent work man! - thanks for your help in piecing together the process for us!

It was awesome actually seeing it work once wired up haha, and it's a thanks to everyone on the thread that chipped in!

Did you use your Tazer or did you get JSCAN?

I had my buddy add a vin for $20 on the JSCAN for now. I spoke with TAZER over the weekend again and he is currently working on getting it added from the sounds of it.

 

[Dadzo]

@mjoneil Thank you for your persistence and systematic methodology. Would it be possible to compile and compress the “recipe” and “ingredients with part numbers” along with sources into a document that can be harmed with and used by your fellow forum members?

I know that’s a lot to ask, but we would all be indebted to you for slaying this dragon! All Hail @mjoneil!!

Gentlemen....... we DID IT! Fogs are wired to BCM and work like OE!!

1st click: Front fogs on

2nd click: Front and Rear fogs on

3rd click: Front fogs only again

4th click: all off

 

[Hbfieldii]

Gentlemen....... we DID IT! Fogs are wired to BCM and work like OE!!

1st click: Front fogs on

2nd click: Front and Rear fogs on

3rd click: Front fogs only again

4th click: all off

So did it just come down to adding those two wires to the plug side of the BCM and running them down to the rear fogs?

 

[mjoneil]

So did it just come down to adding those two wires to the plug side of the BCM and running them down to the rear fogs?

correct!

@mjoneil Thank you for your persistence and systematic methodology. Would it be possible to compile and compress the “recipe” and “ingredients with part numbers” along with sources into a document that can be harmed with and used by your fellow forum members?

I know that’s a lot to ask, but we would all be indebted to you for slaying this dragon! All Hail @mjoneil!!

I was actually working on one while I waited for the pins! It's a lot to read but let me know if any changes are needed

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/write-up-for-adding-euro-spec-rear-fogs.39373/

 

[JTRUBI]

awesome man. Can’t wait to finally get this all finished up.
Haha now if you figure out the rear tail lights let me know. Waiting on my replacements to come in.

correct!


I was actually working on one while I waited for the pins! It's a lot to read but let me know if any changes are needed

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/write-up-for-adding-euro-spec-rear-fogs.39373/

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