Ford is struggling

[ecidiego]

When you see them listed for $24k - go try to buy one. That's when you'll see the dealer's adjusted price of $40k.

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[Wheelin98TJ]

All vehicles have issues. My anecdotal observation is that ford in particular has more issues and a harder time fixing them in my area. That observation had led me to hesitate spending money on a brand that cant seem to produce a decent vehicle off the line and then struggles to correct those issues at all levels. better?

Fords seem reliable to me. The worst of what I’ve personally owned has been Chevy. Or maybe even Jeep (Grand Cherokees).

 

[Robtco99]

I was going to originally get a bronco reservation and get in the Granger deal, but decided against it. I like how you can get a base model with the Sasquatch package. I probably would have gotten my bronco in 4 years instead of the 4 weeks it took after I ordered my Jeep through Gupton

 

[CrazyCooter]

I just built a Badlands and it's more then a Gladiator rubicon in Canada ​

Does cost really matter when it's what you want?

I already have a badass JTR and a nice well built YJ, but in my case was looking for a vehicle in another genre to test/tune supension for that my wife could drive. I'm not paying well over MSRP though. Might start with a 4Runner since those are a dime a dozen and same platform for many more years.

 

[Jefe1018]

I couldn’t imagine needing to buy a new vehicle and waiting on Ford’s fiasco. Honestly, not sure how Jeep has been able to do their thing.

Looking back, 10ish weeks for a custom ordered vehicle is pretty damn smooth considering it needs to travel across the country and sit in a distribution center for about a week before going to a dealer that’s several hours away.

 

[Gren71]

Fords seem reliable to me. The worst of what I’ve personally owned has been Chevy. Or maybe even Jeep (Grand Cherokees).

It’s definitely anecdotal at best. I really think the perspective has a lot to do with how well local shops do maitenance. Around me all of our fleet vehicles are fords and are constantly having issues. As well as every single friend/family who’s owned one. Weve started replacing some of our fleet fords with chevys and they’re easily outlasting our current stock.

I wonder if its really a case where the same 3 companies own everything and just create competition between their own brands to spur business in certain areas.

I just looked at some local dealers and they had a lariat with the hybrid engine for $31,500. Pretty sure thats about msrp at the moment. They don’t list the “market adjustment” but im sure it would be added if I requested info.

 

[jjs3845]

I couldn’t imagine needing to buy a new vehicle and waiting on Ford’s fiasco. Honestly, not sure how Jeep has been able to do their thing.

Looking back, 10ish weeks for a custom ordered vehicle is pretty damn smooth considering it needs to travel across the country and sit in a distribution center for about a week before going to a dealer that’s several hours away.

Another concern of mine would be what if you take delivery then have an issue with it? Can they get the parts to fix it or will they string you along like they're hamstringing the people who have one on order?

But I'm hearing similar things all around. In addition to my JT, I have a 2022 Tundra. They have their issues too. The difference is Toyota pulls no punches with their customers. They won't ask you to water down your order, they just keep you waiting. Toyota seems to be a different ballgame than Jeep with ordering.You tell the dealer what you want, and maybe maybe they'll find you something close. Otherwise you wait.

i took mine for one of my freebie oil changes last week. The dealer had a Tundra in the Pro trim. available on a special color, and a few bells and whistles only available on that trim. Sticker was 70. The dealer had a sold sign on it. I weaseled the final price out of a salesman. It went for 100. i was just thankful that the dealer I bought my JT was fairly honest, and the Toyota dealer I bought my Tundra from had no interest in pricing above sticker.

 

[Chunky White]

I have yet to see a Maverick sitting on a local lot that was not already sold. The Broncos sale quick new and priced over window but used ones are popping up all over the area and aren't moving. I drove a Bronco and wasn't impressed enough with it to buy one. I liked 5 out of 6 F150's I have traded for since 2010 but the last one was junk and the dealership was waiting out my warranty to fix it it seemed so I traded it. Cam positioning sensor went bad and the dealer kept giving me the run around. An AWD maverick is really all I need but the closest ford dealer says they are have orders for over a year out and I am not committing to something I cannot drive first

 

[Gren71]

I have yet to see a Maverick sitting on a local lot that was not already sold. The Broncos sale quick new and priced over window but used ones are popping up all over the area and aren't moving. I drove a Bronco and wasn't impressed enough with it to buy one. I liked 5 out of 6 F150's I have traded for since 2010 but the last one was junk and the dealership was waiting out my warranty to fix it it seemed so I traded it. Cam positioning sensor went bad and the dealer kept giving me the run around. An AWD maverick is really all I need but the closest ford dealer says they are have orders for over a year out and I am not committing to something I cannot drive first

https://www.hertrichs.com/new/Ford/2023-Ford-Maverick-08c1004d0a0e0a901886b4a7eabd9fab.htm

Its only maybe 10hrs drive from NE Tennessee

 

[ecidiego]

The AWD destroys the biggest feature of the Mav....the MPG.

 

[Jefe1018]

The AWD destroys the biggest feature of the Mav....the MPG.

I drove gas guzzling cars my whole life. My wife drives a 4 banger crossover, getting 30mpgs was amazing to me. Even more amazing, getting close to the in my brick on 37’s.

 

[Chunky White]

https://www.hertrichs.com/new/Ford/2023-Ford-Maverick-08c1004d0a0e0a901886b4a7eabd9fab.htm

Its only maybe 10hrs drive from NE Tennessee

I am a drive by shopper. I hadn't planned on trading when I woke up the last twenty or so times I have traded. I just see something I like as I am driving by or on autotrader and see if I can work a deal. I grew up with a father as a GM car dealer who always drove something new or used that was the best on the lot at that time and I have never been loyal to any vehicle and will not travel to get something I won't keep more than a year or a few months. I have basically been making the close to the same monthly payment on 30 some cars since I turned 18.

I was interested in the Maverick when I had the Hellcat Challenger when I planned on keeping the Challenger. I traded it for the Gladiator instead

 

[Vincent]

All vehicles have issues. My anecdotal observation is that ford in particular has more issues and a harder time fixing them in my area. That observation had led me to hesitate spending money on a brand that cant seem to produce a decent vehicle off the line and then struggles to correct those issues at all levels. better?

Facts!
We have a 2020 F150 that’s been in and out of two dealerships with transmission/4wd issues at 35,000mi….
Both the dealerships and FoMoCo have been horrible to deal with IMO.

 

[ckgjt]

I gots a maverick and it is surprisingly very good. Got lucky and found a xlt in area 51 for 4K OVER msrp and that was a deal and still kinda is. It is a very sad day when buy something over msrp and you are happy

 

[SnazzGlad]

Just looked in my area and even used Mavericks are 10k over original msrp. That’s nuts! I can see people with a lot of disposable income paying that on a Bronco but to me a Ford Maverick is more of an economy truck.

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