$2000 upcharge out of the blue for mojave near me....

[Challenger85]

Hard to believe there are still dealers selling 6-8% under invoice when there is such limited supply and no incentive for them to sell that cheap.

Not really. They give you 1% for financing with them, but what do they get as a kick back for using that lender? They offer you 1% with tread lightly that doesn’t cost them a dime. They offer you 6% but every vehicle has a level of profit and they get kickbacks for volume sales and the benefit of getting more hot ticket cars. Honestly, it’s just good business.

If anything it points to how antiquated the dealer model is. Why would anyone want to spend all day haggling over prices when they could just sell cars to people who feel like they’re getting a good deal?

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[Jefe1018]

So you are saying they should all follow the same business model - is that correct? They are following outdated business models and should all be controlled to operate the same.
Did I get that right?
Wondering because it APPEARS you don't like differences and there needs to be some control - or is that not correct?

LOL no...

I said dealers operate under different business models.

I then said that it is frustrating to people in an era where you can find the 'right price' or 'best price' on anything... the automotive industry has managed to keep that number of figure in a dark hole that is dealer networks.

Control? Uhhmm.... I never said anything about control.

Are dealers outdated? Yes I'm sure you know why they became a thing and necessary - one could maybe argue they are no longer needed in a connected world, but I know better than to think they will ever go away - now you hope to find one that is honest and do business with them.

 

[Jefe1018]

Hmm you should take a time out. Nothing he said was that egregious that you need to resort to that level of reply.

LOL how about inferring something that wasn't there? But agreed... redacted the jab.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Hmm you should take a time out. Nothing he said was that egregious that you need to resort to that level of reply.

If I was wrong, sorry, it just seemed to be a contradictory message - not liking the differences as if the reasons weren't valid and yet..........

THANKFULLY we have choices of dealers to buy from and thankfully they don't all follow the same business models. If they were all the same, and it was all bad, where would we be. Embrace the differences and vote with your money!
That's what we did last fall and Spencer got our money for a new WK2. And because of his respect and ease of doing business, my next purchase may go to him.
Thank goodness for difference and choice.

 

[Jawjadawg]

Well today was the day I was going to look at a black mojave and on the way to look at it I noticed a 2k price increase overnight on the website and the truck is bone stock with no dealer installs. Did i miss out waiting? Few days to go see this. How long do you think this price gouging is going to last this is crazy. Should I just wait a year or 2 for this to calm down ?

I was negotiating a factory order on a Mojave and I stopped because of a $3000 "Market Value Correction". I WAS looking to take advantage of the trade in value of my 21 JLU Rubicon but I guess not, Sad and Angry. Not a smart move when you have Ford looking to take market share from you with the Bronco. Bad Move Stelantis, Jeep, or Local dealers price gouging

 

[NachoRuby]

Not a smart move when you have Ford looking to take market share from you with the Bronco. Bad Move Stelantis, Jeep, or Local dealers price gouging

Ford dealerships are doing the same thing with the Bronco. Unfortunately, there are just some greedy dealers out there, all makes. My local dealer doesn't upcharge. Some do, some don't.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I was negotiating a factory order on a Mojave and I stopped because of a $3000 "Market Value Correction". I WAS looking to take advantage of the trade in value of my 21 JLU Rubicon but I guess not, Sad and Angry. Not a smart move when you have Ford looking to take market share from you with the Bronco. Bad Move Stelantis, Jeep, or Local dealers price gouging

Jeep has ZERO to do with that. It's free enterprise. And Jeep dealers aren't the only ones. Go buy certain new Ford or GM products. Same things.

Worse - read what Ford is doing with Bronco. People are getting ticked.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...ers-over-mic-hardtop-replacements-169720.html

 

[Jawjadawg]

Looks like daddy is going shopping on accessories for the JLU and fixing up the 04 FX4.

 

[Jefe1018]

If I was wrong, sorry, it just seemed to be a contradictory message - not liking the differences as if the reasons weren't valid and yet..........

No, no sir. I think we were both making the same points, just worded differently - then there was the whole 'APPEARS'. LOL I love the internet.

I redacted a portion of one of my messages and I APOLOGIZE for it.

Looks like daddy is going shopping on accessories for the JLU and fixing up the 04 FX4.

I've felt this way many times until I just said screws it, I want a JT and life is short - you just need to a find a dealer worth working with.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

No, no sir. I think we were both making the same points, just worded differently - then there was the whole 'APPEARS'. LOL I love the internet.

I redacted a portion of one of my messages and I APOLOGIZE for it.

Whew - I had NO intent of any sort of attack or whatever. Thanks to another member, maybe we avoided something that shouldn't have happened.
I agree - I think I was reading it wrong.

 

[jay21mojave]

Last report I read is that the auto shortage is expected to keep prices inflated until 2025. Better to buy now if you can get near/below MSRP, because car prices are going to sky rocket.

Industry analysts predict the pricing premium will be thru 2022.. the CHIP Shortage should be ending by end of this year.. IT will take time to get dealer inventories UP.
BTW... dealers in my area will sell at MSRP IF YOU ORDER .. not buy off the lot..

 

[Matts4313]

I was negotiating a factory order on a Mojave and I stopped because of a $3000 "Market Value Correction". I WAS looking to take advantage of the trade in value of my 21 JLU Rubicon but I guess not, Sad and Angry. Not a smart move when you have Ford looking to take market share from you with the Bronco. Bad Move Stelantis, Jeep, or Local dealers price gouging

If you dont like the $3k mark up on Gladiator, you will hate the $25k mark up on Bronco.

 

[DBravo]

Well today was the day I was going to look at a black mojave and on the way to look at it I noticed a 2k price increase overnight on the website and the truck is bone stock with no dealer installs. Did i miss out waiting? Few days to go see this. How long do you think this price gouging is going to last this is crazy. Should I just wait a year or 2 for this to calm down ?

I bought my 20' Gladiator Overland at Colonial in N Dartmouth, MA last June. Paid a close to sticker as they were the only ones around with the color I wanted - Punk'n Orange Metallic. They were ok to deal with. However, my wife ordered a '21 Wrangler Sahara with all the options late July from Central Chrysler Jeep Dodge in Raynham, MA and they were fantastic. It actually came in today, at exactly what they quoted for and about $5k below window sticker that it arrived with. We dealt with Molly Sullivan.

 

[jay21mojave]

I was negotiating a factory order on a Mojave and I stopped because of a $3000 "Market Value Correction". I WAS looking to take advantage of the trade in value of my 21 JLU Rubicon but I guess not, Sad and Angry. Not a smart move when you have Ford looking to take market share from you with the Bronco. Bad Move Stelantis, Jeep, or Local dealers price gouging

There are many Jeep dealers around the VA area.. Go to another dealer and place your order with the one that does not charge a MVC.. You're blessed with that option and choice.

 

[CJ5w4wdSmokyOnMyTail]

Yeah. But I'd rather have the extra off road goodies for the same price. Plus, regardless I think we can all mostly agree that Rubicons can pull a higher price and resale value than any other trim.

A. Is there a study showing resale on Rubis is higher than on Mojaves? (correct answer is 'No').
B. Who cares about resale? I didn't buy my Jeep for the next owner to enjoy.

Seriously, though, a base, stock Sport will sell for a higher % of its original MSRP than any other model in 20 years. I'm not saying that base Sport will sell for more $$$, but it will sell for a higher PERCENT of its MSRP.T hat is just the way it works with 'classic' vehicles.

Rubi owners need to be content with having bought a Rubicon because they enjoy it more and stop pretending they made some kind of a wise financial investment decision.

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