?but also learned about so many issues that would have had me in a panic if it wasn’t for this forum. Examples… the Jeep locking up in reverse if the door isn’t shut or seatbelt on. Or how temperamental the ecodiesel is, and really considering the quality of Diesel fuel, DEF fluid, or additives I feed to this emissions cow-towing over-engineered machine.
haha. Too funny.LOL - I'll take that betAsk my friends and those I work for.
Anyway, I actually set out to prove you right and myself wrong on the doors as far as panels being flat or not flat, any indentations or uneven spots, that sort of thing. The reflections are pretty true to life without distortions. I was looking to find something.
All I found was by one of the driver door hinges it's like the hinge being bolted on pulled the panel in that area just a bit - not really unexpected. Unless it's totally clean and you lean down to that level, not noticeable. So in that respect - you got it.
The paint isn't like a grossly over-restored show car - it's a factory mass-painted truck, but the doors - no waves, ripples, no distortions or areas not flat.
The paint is about what I expect on ordinary production vehicles other than Lexus and so on (I expect perfection on those, on every square inch)
Good grief, you are talking about multiple economies ago and multiple companies/owners ago.
Yes this. If the highest priorities are ride, dependability, MPG, beautiful lines…etc. better options elsewhere. For me, Jeep is about being able to go where most other vehicles cannot and having a great time doing it… and giving it a good rinse afterwards. ?
It IS a true utility vehicle, unlike those people keep calling "SUV" which are no more than all wheel drive station wagons, that would get hung up on bird poo on the highway.
Had the AMC Jeep in 83. What a mechanical POS…(but still fun). This version and mfg leadership is WAY better.Good grief, you are talking about multiple economies ago and multiple companies/owners ago.
If you went by that, then Hondas will rot away in 10 year, Chevrolets will lose their cab corners in 10 years, Ford trucks will lose rocker panels in 5 years. How can you compare a Jeep made a lifetime ago with today's processes?
The lines are very consistent, gaps even all the way around, welds very evenly spaced, very different vehicles from 1980s or even 1990s.
Gaps very even, no chips, no rust, no bubbling.
Maybe I should have put it differently, in a solid front axle vehicle road imperfections especially at speed require more corrective input than in IFS vehicles as forces from ruts, road surface camber etc are transferred from one side to the other In a way that is very different than in independent front suspensions. Nothing wrong with the gladiator but steering characteristics and response to road imperfections ARE very different in a solid axle vehicle and as I have had 7 of them in my lifetime, out of a total of now 16 vehicles of various makes and vintages I am very confident of the differences in how they feel. Not to get in an argument here.. suffice it to say the gladiator drives quite differently than a Tacoma on the highway and a lot of that is due to the solid front axle (and what makes it unique and special too)
But can it produce methane???This applies to us
That's up to the driver.....
