Mojave Owners; How Does Your Truck Handle Snow?

[Toyfrog]

i had no issues when others were getting stuck. In MD we get an odd mix of snow and ice and that is hard to drive in, the JTM was the most stable and sure footed vehicle I have ever driven in snow.

What light is in scoop? Thanks

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[Jimbo8v92]

Correct me if I'm wrong about Mojave factory setup...

Sport = open diff F/R
Sport Max Tow & Willys = LSD rear
Mojave = rear selectable locker
Rubicon = front & rear selectable lockers

For packed snow & ice: LDS>open differential>locked lockers.

Lockers will slide you right off the road on ice, open diff will leave one front & one rear tire spinning on ice (and no power going to the other tire on that axle), limited slip - put slight pressure on parking/emergency brake & both rear tires will have power. Let off brake as soon as you are moving & you won't slide right off the road surface.

So... the best factory model for packed snow or ice is a sport max tow (more biting edges on street tires). Best factory model for mix of deep snow, packed snow, & ice is Willys (MT tires better in deep snow, but worse in ice than street tires).

Mojave & Rubicon cannot safely engage lockers in ice & packed snow, so they might as well be a non-max tow sport in those conditions.

I belive the mojave and the rubicon applu brakes to the wheel thats slipping to send power to the tire that has grip so you dont just sit there spinning one tire. I much rather have a limited slip than a electronic locker but not an option. Take the good with the bad i guess lol

 

[UnforseenWeather]

LOVING my selec-trac Mojave in the snow so far. Time will tell whether it’s as good (don’t laugh) as my ’17 Trailhawk but even if it’s the same it’s still awesome. Both have A/T tires.

We drive vehicles that are smart enough (with traction control and modern AWD) to figure it out and get you moving.

 

[Savage1]

LOVING my selec-trac Mojave in the snow so far. Time will tell whether it’s as good (don’t laugh) as my ’17 Trailhawk but even if it’s the same it’s still awesome. Both have A/T tires.

We drive vehicles that are smart enough (with traction control and modern AWD) to figure it out and get you moving.

same here. Got mine a couple weeks ago with selec trac and we got hammered with snow over the weekend. I’ve had a blast in it.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I belive the mojave and the rubicon applu brakes to the wheel thats slipping to send power to the tire that has grip so you dont just sit there spinning one tire.

It's called traction control - and any Jeep has that. Call it whatever, but it's pretty standard on modern vehicles and not at all special to any level of Gladiator.
My Chevy did it - a 2011, and my Overland JT does it (finally, it didn't seem to be working for a while)

 

[Jimbo8v92]

It's called traction control - and any Jeep has that. Call it whatever, but it's pretty standard on modern vehicles and not at all special to any level of Gladiator.
My Chevy did it - a 2011, and my Overland JT does it (finally, it didn't seem to be working for a while)

Well aparetly i dont pay enough attention to new cars lol.. wasnt aware thats a standard thing today this is honestly the first new vehicle ive owned. I have a 92 yj that i put a ford 302 in and daily a econobox 2011 hyundai that doesnt have abs or traction control lol.

 

[mellendic]

What light is in scoop? Thanks

Its a Rigid SR pro 10 lights amber bar that was custom fab'ed by the local shop in Baltimore to fit. It's an awesome use of that space.

 

[NachoRuby]

MD is one of those places where all hell breaks loose when it snows.

1) The drivers don't have any snow skills.
2)Drivers think that 4wd / AWD helps them stop and turn. It doesn't.
3) They don't have the salting and snow removal equipment.

Northeasterners laugh at people in those southern middle Atlantic states who slide off the road and cause 100 car pile ups when it snows. (not if there is serious injury or death. that's not amusing.)

Old post, but you haven't been to Western Maryland much have you? Frostburg gets more snow than Boston MA. It snows all the freaking time. Obviously the Chesapeake Bay area and Eastern Shore get less snow, but Western Maryland gets a LOT of snow, all winter, starting in late fall, and ending in early spring.
Maryland is not a state where it doesn't snow. We have salt/plows, snow emergency routes, blizzards, etc. It snows multiple times per week every week, from December to March. The DC area and the Baltimore area do not get as much snow, but out here in the boonies, it snows all the time. I live in pa now, but I'm only 8 miles from MD, and I grew up in Western MD.

Maryland is 1/3 Appalachian (Western MD), 1/3 piedmont (From the edge of the Appalachians to the Chesapeake Bay), and 1/3 Eastern Shore. The Appalachian section gets plenty of snow, the other two regions progressively less.

https://www.bestplaces.net/climate/city/maryland/frostburg
https://www.bestplaces.net/climate/city/maryland/emmitsburg
https://www.bestplaces.net/climate/zip-code/maryland/smithsburg/21783

https://weatherspark.com/y/20282/Average-Weather-in-Cumberland-Maryland-United-States-Year-Round

 

[dcmdon]

Old post, but you haven't been to Western Maryland much have you? Frostburg gets more snow than Boston MA. It snows all the freaking time. Obviously the Chesapeake Bay area and Eastern Shore get less snow, but Western Maryland gets a LOT of snow, all winter, starting in late fall, and ending in early spring.
Maryland is not a state where it doesn't snow. We have salt/plows, snow emergency routes, blizzards, etc. It snows multiple times per week every week, from December to March. The DC area and the Baltimore area do not get as much snow, but out here in the boonies, it snows all the time. I live in pa now, but I'm only 8 miles from MD, and I grew up in Western MD.

Maryland is 1/3 Appalachian (Western MD), 1/3 piedmont (From the edge of the Appalachians to the Chesapeake Bay), and 1/3 Eastern Shore. The Appalachian section gets plenty of snow, the other two regions progressively less.

https://www.bestplaces.net/climate/city/maryland/frostburg
https://www.bestplaces.net/climate/city/maryland/emmitsburg
https://www.bestplaces.net/climate/zip-code/maryland/smithsburg/21783

https://weatherspark.com/y/20282/Average-Weather-in-Cumberland-Maryland-United-States-Year-Round

So you'd be ok with "the vast majority of MD" ?? At least where most of the people live.

 

[NachoRuby]

So you'd be ok with "the vast majority of MD" ?? At least where most of the people live.

Sort of, but even in the areas where it doesn't snow "a lot" it still snows often enough to where everyone in Maryland is used to driving in snow, and there are still salt trucks across the state. Even the eastern shore gets 2-3 major snowstorms per year (just got one last week). I think you have MD confused with (southern) VA and NC. Maryland gets snow regularly. Even Baltimore, one of the least snowy areas, gets 19 inches per year. No, it's not the 48 that Boston gets, but it's enough to be used to the stuff.
There's not anyone in Maryland who isn't used to driving in snow. It's not rare or strange anywhere in the state to see major snowfall. We all grew up building snowmen and having snowball fights and sledding. There are even ski lodges.
Now my wife is from NC. It snowed there a couple weeks ago and everything was shutdown. Maryland, it's business as usual. Especially for the many who commute from the west to Baltimore/DC, and drive through it all the time.
Take a look at some of the cars the next time you're down that way. They use so much salt when it snows that everything's all rusted out after 5-6 years. Roadsalt killed my old Jeep.

 

[dcmdon]

You clearly know more about that part of the country than I do.
Would yo say there is a big difference in preparedness between MD along I95 and VA.

I'm not talking about up in the mountains. But along 95

 

[dcmdon]

By the way, we got a ton of snow again this weekend and I continue to be impressed by how well the Falken AT tires work. No, they aren't as good as real winter tires. But they are really good considering that the Nokians I wanted were sold out.

(and now Simple tire has them. When I have 6 weeks of winter left.)
Nokian LT3 315/70-17 In Stock

 

[NachoRuby]

You clearly know more about that part of the country than I do.
Would yo say there is a big difference in preparedness between MD along I95 and VA.

I'm not talking about up in the mountains. But along 95

When I was a teacher, I spent a few years commuting back and forth from Western MD to the Baltimore area. Also, in college, I ran track, and I remember vividly our workout being to clear the snow off of the track haha. Yes. Huge difference at about the i95 corridor.

 

[Gvsukids]

Also curious how folks with the factory Falkon M/Ts are handling snow.

Doing just fine.

 

[ToJTornottoJT]

Correct me if I'm wrong about Mojave factory setup...

Sport = open diff F/R
Sport Max Tow & Willys = LSD rear
Mojave = rear selectable locker
Rubicon = front & rear selectable lockers

For packed snow & ice: LDS>open differential>locked lockers.

Lockers will slide you right off the road on ice, open diff will leave one front & one rear tire spinning on ice (and no power going to the other tire on that axle), limited slip - put slight pressure on parking/emergency brake & both rear tires will have power. Let off brake as soon as you are moving & you won't slide right off the road surface.

So... the best factory model for packed snow or ice is a sport max tow (more biting edges on street tires). Best factory model for mix of deep snow, packed snow, & ice is Willys (MT tires better in deep snow, but worse in ice than street tires).

Mojave & Rubicon cannot safely engage lockers in ice & packed snow, so they might as well be a non-max tow sport in those conditions.

Whatever, I use my rear locker all the time in the snow.

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