Hurricane Twin Turbo... I can only wish in Gladiator

[Gladiatorx2]

I am on my third Gladiator. I had a 2021, 2022 and now a 2023. I have owned 2 F150's as well and a Grand Cherokee L. I have always came back to a Gladiator. I plan on keeping this one but, Hurricane would be a game changer for me. It would be on to Gladiator # 4

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[Hugh Jorgan]

Well then I would definitely trade in my current Gladiator if they do end up getting a 3.0 Hurricane! Otherwise I feel like the Gladiator is the perfect truck as far as size and capabilities go, just needs a bit more power. I have tried to help it in that sense with an air intake, y pipe, exhaust and pulsar but it is just not quite there even with those.

I agree w u. I think it’s actually the one vehicle platform in the entire Jeep lineup that can genuinely be referred to as a masterpiece.

It just needs that moment that we had in the 80’s where Jeep binned the small displacement v6 in the XJ and changed the game w the 4.0L I6.

And from that moment on time stopped and Jeeps had heart, guts and stamina back under the hood.

We need the modern day equivalent of that moment where they stopped w the NQR power plants ..

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

It's weird, on this forum there seems to be a lot of dislike for the 3.6. People are worried about longevity. Cams, lifters,heard, etc. I work for a small police department that has a 12 police pursuit chargers with the 3.6 and the average mileage is approximately 150,000 plus 9,000 idle hours. Fleet maintenance says idle hours equivalent to driving 20 miles. So 150k plus 180k is 330,000 miles of often abuse given the nature of there use. We have only replaced cylinder heads on the 2013/2014 and all under warranty. Engine oil coolers, cooling fans, radiator and thermostat are the primary maintenance items. This on a v6 that in this vehicle in a slick top will do 135 plus mph. I think from experience that it is a dependable engine and I trust it. Internet fodder makes it seem like junk. It's big drawback for me is the lack of low and midrange torque. So that is why I wish and hope that the Hurricane will come in the Gladiator. I appreciate all the comments but they seem to be negative. Why? I drove a heavy vehicle with the aerodynamics of a barn. I toggled through all information available as far as coolant temp, oil temp, trans temp, oil pressure etc. It was all virtually identical to my Gladiator with the difference being gobs of low and midrange torque and lots of available horsepower. Everyone has a right to there opinion. I base my opinion of experience. I am 62 years old started turning wrenches in 1971. I have owned virtually every classic muscle car as well as all of the modern ones. The fastest, most durable and efficient was a lowly turbocharged 1987 Buick Grand National. With larger intercooler, fuel pump, injectors and single turbo ran the 1/8 in 7 flat at 120 mph. I had a 2016 Charger Hellcat that couldn't hold a candle to it. I for one will be the first in line to be one if or when it happens.

I agree. I agree w all of that. That’s a great rant

I don’t have anything against the pentastar. I don’t have any experience with it aside from a half hour test drive.

I have something against it being in the gladiator. Bc it’s the wrong motor for it.

I have alot of experience with a 3.5v6 Hyundai 4x4, 3.8v6 (jk) and the 3.3v6 in the early 90’s pathfinder (easily the best of the lot).

They don’t make torque down low. Period. That’s why it’s wrong for the JT particularly. Still wrong for JL but less so. No bed on a JL. Therefore potentially not as much of a hard worker.

The small displacement Nat asp v6 has its applications. I’m sure the pentastar is one of the better ones. But nothing will change the physics. They don’t make torque, inherently on the basis of design.

Ie Id take the hurricane I4 over it bc that makes peak torque lower down. Hurricane I6 even better. But I’d take either. I like the dual fuel Hurricane I4 / e-motors package for the low down grunt alone.

Time will be the only captain regards longevity. And for that we can only hope the Chrysler guys did their homework. Time will tell.

As per above there is abundant evidence of dependable turbo motor designs out there. I do mean abundant. In this hot dry land of hard working vehicles particularly.

 

[hepcat]

I'm a little late to the party, but I bought a '16 JKUR new with a six-speed stick. I had it eight years and was never in the shop for an issue with the Pentastar 3.6 the whole eight years. I bought my '22 Gladiator Overland new this March. I've got almost 10k miles on it now, 5,000 of that pulling a 6k lb trailer and have had no issues. IMO, the 3.6 is a competent engine.

Last Weds, I traded (over the phone) my 23' travel trailer for a 27' that is 6300 lbs dry and 7500 lb GVWR. My 6k tow capacity on the Gladiator wasn't enough, so I ended up buying a new 2025 RAM Laramie 1500 with the Hurricane 6 twin-turbo and a 3.92 rear end with an 11,500 lb tow rating. On the 1100 mile trip home with it, it has broken in and performs amazingly. I head from Iowa to Columbus OH on Saturday with the 23' trailer to pick up the 27' trailer on Monday. I'm anxious to see how it performs towing.

I'll follow up with my impressions when I'm back. So far the Hurricane is impressive in that truck and gave a solid 24-25mpg over that 1100 mile trip. Incredible mileage for a full-size truck.

 

[PuddleJumper]

Sorry for the above long rant. All of the negativity on BOTH engines is undeserving. Adding a turbo to a normally aspirated can lead to disaster. An engine designed for a turbo application is designed and built for it. The Hurricane will find it's way in to my hands, even if it is in a new a Charger.

I agree. Jeep just gets the most flak when it comes to issues. 99% are QC issues not design issues. personally idc what engine i end up swapping in from chrysler. Hurricane, 5.7, 6.4, as long as its OEM supplied and gets me close to 380 TQ.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

For me 48k on a Gladiator was a stretch to begin with.

90+ on a Hurricane version is a firm no from me.

I'll live with it being slow for the next 10 years and booger weld a LS into it when it's finally retired from daily duty.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

For me 48k on a Gladiator was a stretch to begin with.

90+ on a Hurricane version is a firm no from me.

I'll live with it being slow for the next 10 years and booger weld a LS into it when it's finally retired from daily duty.

If Jeep were to put the Hurricane in the Gladiator, I don't think the price would be anywhere near $90k.

You can get a Ram with a Hurricane for around $70k.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

If Jeep were to put the Hurricane in the Gladiator, I don't think the price would be anywhere near $90k.

You can get a Ram with a Hurricane for around $70k.

You could get a Ram with a Hemi for under fifty.

How much is a Wrangler?

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

You could get a Ram with a Hemi for under fifty.

How much is a Wrangler?

You can still get a new 2024 Ram with a Hemi for under $50k.

The Hurricane option for a 2025 Ram is $2,695.

How much for a Wrangler? A certain model, or anything? I'm not sure where this is going.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Where it's going is, when you buy a Wrangler with a Hemi in it, how much is that?

 

[LOGS]

The sooner Jeep puts a new power train in the JT the better. Why anyone would settle for the 3.6 that is barely adequate is beyond me. If it wasn’t for the ecodiesel I wouldn’t have one in my driveway.

 

[Gladiatorx2]

To hepcat, I appreciate your information on your experience with the Hurricane. It sounds a lot like mine in the Wagoneer. I think putting that engine in the Gladiator would be a huge leap forward. I intend on keeping this Gladiator but if the Hurricane makes it way into a Gladiator I would then be on to Gladiator number four.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

Where it's going is, when you buy a Wrangler with a Hemi in it, how much is that?

The 392 Wrangler comes with a 470 hp 6.4L Hemi.

The 420 hp Hurricane is the replacement for the 5.7L Hemi.

Now if you take a Gladiator and add the HO 500+ hp Hurricane, load it up like a 392 Wrangler, and add the XR package that Gladiators can't get, then maybe it could hit the $90k price.

 

[Oilburner]

The sooner Jeep puts a new power train in the JT the better. Why anyone would settle for the 3.6 that is barely adequate is beyond me. If it wasn’t for the ecodiesel I wouldn’t have one in my driveway.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

The 392 Wrangler comes with a 470 hp 6.4L Hemi.

The 420 hp Hurricane is the replacement for the 5.7L Hemi.

Now if you take a Gladiator and add the HO 500+ hp Hurricane, load it up like a 392 Wrangler, and add the XR package that Gladiators can't get, then maybe it could hit the $90k price.

We already know what the gap from standard Wrangler to Hemi Wrangler is.

We can easily infer what the gap from standard Wrangler to Hurricane Wrangler would be.

Theres no incentive at all to offer lower cost, high power power trains in the JL/JT line.

If you want that, Stellantis has a Ram to sell you.

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