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I meant 3 speed

You would have to know that pic and the days of my old zuk are from 2007 power to weight 97 hp in a 2000 lb rig that ultimately became a buggy on 39's

However I was kinda half agreeing with you on modern drivetrains.. the JT however is just as under powered @ 285 hp weighing 5100lbs. power to weight is not far off of each
and the zuk was geared better stock
MY JT has 4.10 sport tcase and 35's it definitely needs more gear and power to move up to the 40's i would like
I agree with that for sure. I'll still argue that more power is money better spent but for 40s with my freeway driving I'd probably go 4.88s, maybe 5.13s. The JT just isn't a great crawler platform anyway with its long wheelbase and long rear overhang. I'll take the JLUR for crawling any day. The tcase makes a hell of a difference for crawling with no drawbacks for street driving. Your sport only has a 52:1 crawl ratio. Even if you regear to 5.13s you're only at 65:1. Swap in a rubi tcase and you're at 77:1 with stock axle gears. Did you actually weigh the suk? 2k stock but you added bigger axles, a bigger motor, a doubler, bigger tires, and a cage without gaining any weight? I'd better closer to 3k pounds built. Even if we are optimistic and say 2500lbs that's 25.77lbs/hp vs the JT at 17.89lbs/hp. That's 31% better power to weight ratio which is why the JT will 0-60 in 7s and the suk won't. The stock sami was 17-18s 0-60 with a top speed of 77mph. Wouldn't even hit modem speed limits.
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Gearing will always be subjective.
Opinions on them will, but I've lost track of how many people (in person) have told me "yeah, but my 3.73's turn more/less RPMs than yours!" Math is math unless you have something slipping.
 

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I've got tears in my eyes after reading this thread.
 

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The Duck Nazi....

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Opinions on them will, but I've lost track of how many people (in person) have told me "yeah, but my 3.73's turn more/less RPMs than yours!" Math is math unless you have something slipping.
Math is math... but the transmission is computer controlled and will downshift when it needs more torque output. In each gear obviously higher gears will turn more rpm at a given suited in the same gear. What gear will it be in for the given load though? 4.10s will be turning more rpm at 65 mph than 4.88s under light loads because one will be in 7th and the other will be in 8th. With as many gear options as the transmission has odds are average overall rpms absurd a mixed use trip will likely be more similar than anyone who paid for a regear wants to admit. Pulling a steeper grade the 4.10 truck might downshift to 4th, the 4.88 truck to 5th... and the rpms are still the same. Almost like there's a computer determined final drive ratio for a given load?
 

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Math is math... but the transmission is computer controlled
Oh, I'm not talking to anyone smart enough to calculate anything but final drive! And these conversations have all been about older stuff anyway, bench racing hotrods and such.
 

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Had an error code on a Ford, Torque compensation error. Computer couldn't figure it out either I guess.
 

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I think that’s technically a prolapse. (Don’t Google it).
I had hogs that snuggled too tight on each other in the winter cold - people really don't want to know............
 

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You guys need to install a 2500 stall torque converter. Skip the regearing.
 

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