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Big deal, a snorkel. I can add one to my 1994 Toyota for a couple hundred bucks.
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But it still has that bowtie on it...
Ford = Chevy = FCA = all the same in my book. None of them are Toyota/Honda ..... but at the end of the day you have a choice Interesting/Fun or High Build Quality you don't get both. Toyota and Honda make cars that are as interesting to drive as riding a bus.
 

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Over the last 10 years, 97 % of Ford & Chevy trucks are still on the road....

the rest of them were able to make it home.
 

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Interesting, yes. Competition even if real, no way. This is an ev with hub motors. Cost alone puts it into a different category.
 

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I just built a RAM Lonhorn with some mild improvements including the diesel option and it came out to be $51K.

I'd much rather have a Jeep for a little bit less ($47,632) thank you very much.
 
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I just built a RAM Lonhorn with some mild improvements including the diesel option and it came out to be $51K.

I'd much rather have a Jeep for a little bit less ($47,632) thank you very much.
Dont forget you can get a RAM for about $10K off MSRP

I built two different 2019 1500s and one came out to $52,750 (rebel) and the other $56,840 (Laramie) (see Build Sheets Attached), one you take off $10K in incentives (which will happen by this year next time if not sooner) that nets out to $42,750 and $46,840 .... which will be about $8k-$4k less then a diesel JT Rubicon @ 5% below invoice (of course thats and estimate based on JL pricing of a loaded Rubicon @$ 57K)
 

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This is going to be its closest competitor I think.

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Dont forget you can get a RAM for about $10K off MSRP

I built two different 2019 1500s and one came out to $52,750 (rebel) and the other $56,840 (Laramie) (see Build Sheets Attached), one you take off $10K in incentives (which will happen by this year next time if not sooner) that nets out to $42,750 and $46,840 .... which will be about $8k-$4k less then a diesel JT Rubicon @ 5% below invoice (of course thats and estimate based on JL pricing of a loaded Rubicon @$ 57K)
New Rams are very very nice, but they just seem super huge. and what do they do besides tow and haul shit? 4 billion pick-me-ups on the roads and for the most part they look alike.
 
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New Rams are very very nice, but they just seem super huge. and what do they do besides tow and haul shit? 4 billion pick-me-ups on the roads and for the most part they look alike.
AEV has already stated that they will continue the Recruit line of parts for the new 1500, so I'm excited to see what they come up with.

With that said and to answer your question, it depends on whats more important to you. The Ram will be way more comfortable on long drives and around town, will carry more gear (if Overlanding), can tow more, has a V8 or Diesel (so not underpowered), and 4WD that I would say is as good as a Tacoma's.

On the other hand like you said, its a bigger truck so if you don't need the size it could get in the way. Also no convertible top, the "cool" factor isn't there as much as the JT, it wont be as good offroad, and lastly the JT will have better resale value so while more expensive at first it might not work out to be that way in the long run.

My personal struggle is that the Ram makes more sense for me logically, but my desire is still for the JT. Its kind of why I'm waiting it out. Also the rumor that the new 1500 TR and TRX will be shown at LA is also of interest to me, as well as seeing where pricing on the Raptor Ranger comes in and the 2020 Ram 2500 (hoping to see a Power Wagon version)
 

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Its a lot more then that. The ZR2 already has the Multimatic suspension on it, so on top of that it has a lift to clear 35s. Front winch bumper, and rear bumper built by AEV, wider fender flares, snorkel, and a few other things. You can check out the concept here:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/t...-seriously-hard-core-and-chevy-might-build-it
Welp, so much for the Bison...

https://jalopnik.com/heres-why-the-2018-chevy-colorado-zr2-has-been-spotted-1826113082
 

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Saw something similar at Expo West and actually sat and talked with Dave Harriton for quite some time about Tacoma products and future AEV goodies. I even put in my request for him to bring back the Bridger wheels and he said he wants to as they were one of his favorites as well. The ZR2 is cool in person but the JT will be infinitely cooler! Can't wait to see what the aftermarket does with them.
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