Kill switch install from 41.22

[Rusty PW]

Hell ... haven't you ever heard a car alarm go off while you were at restaurant eating or while visiting a friend's apartment... yeah, I ignored it too. Just like everyone else. People don't pay attention to horns anymore. Exception - if it's my horn.

Get a set of train horns. Wake up the dead.

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[Minty JL]

Yeah I know a bit about cyber too. Its all about layering defenses. Same with the switch.

BINGO....... as a fellow Cyber monkey......a true or well built security system involves layers or redundancy. Make them peel the onion.........but they want a soft target, don't be the soft target.

1)With locking the truck 2)hood locks 3)kill switch 4) a sleeve or box for your fob 5) exterior cameras is a pretty damn solid system. Now like anything else, if they want it, they will steal it.

Bottomline there is no security that is 100%, all you can do is mitigate the threat as much as you can. The only 100% would be, don't buy something that can be stolen or walk LOL; but that's not really a viable option for the masses

 

[Minty JL]

With the JT they can just snip the cable to the horn effectively muting it.

One of these grill insert would prevent an easy snip on the horn wiring harness

https://underthesuninserts.com/products/jeep-grille-insert

 

[OldSarge]

One of these grill insert would prevent an easy snip on the horn wiring harness

https://underthesuninserts.com/products/jeep-grille-insert

BINGO....... as a fellow Cyber monkey......a true or well built security system involves layers or redundancy. Make them peel the onion.........but they want a soft target, don't be the soft target.

1)With locking the truck 2)hood locks 3)kill switch 4) a sleeve or box for your fob 5) exterior cameras is a pretty damn solid system. Now like anything else, if they want it, they will steal it.

Bottomline there is no security that is 100%, all you can do is mitigate the threat as much as you can. The only 100% would be, don't buy something that can be stolen or walk LOL; but that's not really a viable option for the masses

LOL, yes layers! I also have an airtag hidden in the JT. I took it apart and removed the speaker so you can't ping it. None of these things may work, but then again, one of them may!

 

[Aj58]

One of these grill insert would prevent an easy snip on the horn wiring harness

https://underthesuninserts.com/products/jeep-grille-insert

Great, more stuff to buy ?

 

[Maximus Gladius]

BINGO....... as a fellow Cyber monkey......a true or well built security system involves layers or redundancy. Make them peel the onion.........but they want a soft target, don't be the soft target.

1)With locking the truck 2)hood locks 3)kill switch 4) a sleeve or box for your fob 5) exterior cameras is a pretty damn solid system. Now like anything else, if they want it, they will steal it.

Bottomline there is no security that is 100%, all you can do is mitigate the threat as much as you can. The only 100% would be, don't buy something that can be stolen or walk LOL; but that's not really a viable option for the masses

Let me add #6 to the layers and the cab is where you and the pit bulls sleep.

 

[Minty JL]

Great, more stuff to buy ?

Still cheaper then the deductible on your insurance

 

[Minty JL]

LOL, yes layers! I also have an airtag hidden in the JT. I took it apart and removed the speaker so you can't ping it. None of these things may work, but then again, one of them may!

Multiple layers FTW

 

[Aj58]

Still cheaper then the deductible on your insurance

Oh im not complaining ?

just the excuse I need.

 

[Minty JL]

Oh im not complaining ?

just the excuse I need.

I hear that brother

 

[ShadowsPapa]

..a true or well built security system involves layers or redundancy

Firewalls, routers, core switches with routing capabilities that redirected traffic of certain types, certain protocols and so on.
We didn't rely on just a firewall. We also had intrusion prevention along with detection. So if there was an attack, I'd be alerted.
That's something few vehicle owners think of - being notified instead of finding out it's gone when you wake up and have had your morning coffee - find out at 2am while it's happening.
I had a setup that alerted me if someone responded to a phishing email - and the traffic was blocked, the employee identified, etc. - but few have any sort of alerting capability to a theft taking place.
As too many find out - once it's gone, it's probably a bit late.
Since nothing can absolutely prevent 100%, make plans for the time it happens with some sort of alert or monitoring system.

 

[Minty JL]

Firewalls, routers, core switches with routing capabilities that redirected traffic of certain types, certain protocols and so on.
We didn't rely on just a firewall. We also had intrusion prevention along with detection. So if there was an attack, I'd be alerted.
That's something few vehicle owners think of - being notified instead of finding out it's gone when you wake up and have had your morning coffee - find out at 2am while it's happening.
I had a setup that alerted me if someone responded to a phishing email - and the traffic was blocked, the employee identified, etc. - but few have any sort of alerting capability to a theft taking place.
As too many find out - once it's gone, it's probably a bit late.
Since nothing can absolutely prevent 100%, make plans for the time it happens with some sort of alert or monitoring system.

Yes, IDS/IPS WIDs/WIDs are all parts of the process....but not the total end point because of changes in signatures and the ability to spoof certain attributes

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Yes, IDS/IPS WIDs/WIDs are all parts of the process....but not the total end point because of changes in signatures and the ability to spoof certain attributes

The irony of network/computer security is that 90%+ of all intrusions in the last several years are due to operators inviting them in.
The video "Rise of the Hackers" had an interesting experiment. They created, I believe it was USB, could have been CD though, can't recall, but they marked it as important and left it laying in a public place.
In each case, people picked up and took it to work and put it in their work computer to check it out. That's how stuxnet got into an isolate system.
And that's what I saw at PFG - company officers afraid to miss out on some message, and IT/helpdesk people bringing in disks from home.
At CCC a threat spread through several computers because an engineer brought files from home to share with his co-workers, cute Disney stuff for their screen - WHAM.
So we had to protect not only from outside threats (only 10% likelihood) and the threats literally invited in - 90% risk.

Luckily with our Jeeps - we don't have to worry that 90% of all thefts are by friends and family and co-workers.

 

[T-Rock]

The irony of network/computer security is that 90%+ of all intrusions in the last several years are due to operators inviting them in.
The video "Rise of the Hackers" had an interesting experiment. They created, I believe it was USB, could have been CD though, can't recall, but they marked it as important and left it laying in a public place.
In each case, people picked up and took it to work and put it in their work computer to check it out. That's how stuxnet got into an isolate system.
And that's what I saw at PFG - company officers afraid to miss out on some message, and IT/helpdesk people bringing in disks from home.
At CCC a threat spread through several computers because an engineer brought files from home to share with his co-workers, cute Disney stuff for their screen - WHAM.
So we had to protect not only from outside threats (only 10% likelihood) and the threats literally invited in - 90% risk.

Luckily with our Jeeps - we don't have to worry that 90% of all thefts are by friends and family and co-workers.

I work for a defense industrial base firm (DIB) with DoD contracts, wanna talk layers of security - we got 'em. Many, many layers. And 100% agree that "insider" threat due to carelessness or getting fooled into something is the biggest issue. We require multiple "security" training sessions a year for staff. The hacking doesn't stop but much can be blocked and with constant refresher education people start new habits that are more secure. For Jeepers careful parking location choices, locking the vehicle (good habit), and any other layer you can afford like those mentioned in this thread. I think electro-shock would be a good one, but local authorities don't seem to like that on a parked vehicle.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

. I think electro-shock would be a good one, but local authorities don't seem to like that on a parked vehicle.

Yeah, they have no sense of humor, I guess. ?

Our "backup servers" were in the installation at Camp Dodge. I suppose they figured - who would be stupid enough.......... plus the security there should be second to none.

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