Last Year of the Gladiator (2024) -- says dealer

[DirtyHarry]

I'm glad for you

Many of the people I know that got the 4xe's did it for a single reason, the rebates

But again, I'm glad you're happy with your 4xe

But as for me, NO Thank You

Yeah i don't have a 4xe. But i recognize the merits with it. The rebates just allowed people to get new technology at no extra cost. It was a good deal for the early adopters. I cant wait to see the new technology that they'll continue to put in Jeeps.

A 4xe is probably the only thing that could save the gladiator from the chopping block.

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[ShadowsPapa]

I'm happy that a 4xe will work for you

20 miles EV (or whatever it is) is a complete joke IMHO

Again, if it works for you, I'm happy for you

But I'm pretty sure I'm in the vast majority of Americans that don't want an EV and am tired of having them shoved down our throats

If you close your mouth and ignore them, no one can possibly force anything down your throat.

Oh, and it's 25 miles on pure battery, 500 miles on 9.8 gallons of gas, and no downshifting on mountain roads! No need - instant torque from the time your foot hits the pedal.
your loss - not going to force one on you, but at least get some good information to base your hate on

Who else goes 500 miles on less than 10 gallons of gas and drives a JLU Rubicon for 25 miles on $1.18? (or $1.79 summer rates)

Best selling PHEV again......
But it's NOT for everyone!

 

[MaximusTX]

I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately. What’s the most successful low emission vehicle? The Prius. But everyone keeps dogging Toyota for supposedly being behind the curve. American companies went all in on EVs, and American media is EV biased. But the tech really isn’t there yet to make them a true replacement for IC. That’s not completely true. For daily use, EVs are superior to ICE. It’s the problem of driving long distances that’s the issue.

But an ICE replacement has been there for decades in the form of hybrids. For people that buy an Hybrid crossover, it’s a seamless transition, and the tech keeps getting better. There’s been a paradigm shift in what a hybrid can be. If you couple a relatively large battery (for a hybrid) with powerful electrical motors and a small ICE for range extension and to compensate for EVs short comings, like cold weather performance, you arrive at a best of all worlds option. You have a zero emissions vehicle for daily commutes, errands, etc, and you don’t have the range anxiety or off road anxiety that comes with EVs.

A Gladiator that has 50-100 miles of EV range, but still works off road, can tackle trips without needing to search for charging stations and still have the torque needed to perform off road would be better than what exist now. And it wouldn’t require any breakthrough in technology.

Concerns over hybrid reliability basically haven’t been borne out accros the industry over the years. Problems with cars still tend to be related to ICE, emissions controls for ICE and electronics, not the EV systems and motors. In fact there’s a new problem EVs and Hybrids with smaller simpler engines are creating. They’re reducing the need for service techs and simplifying construction.

The current 4xe was an experiment but it was a wild success. It was the best selling hybrid in 2022 and one of the best selling Jeeps. If a 2.0 version increases the EV range it will be an even bigger success. I think there’s some threshold of range, I think it’s around 50-100miles whereby the calculus shifts for most holdouts.

For me personally a gladiator like that would negate all the house battery work I’ve done since it has its own internal large lithium battery. Jeep already realized the overlanding potential of that on the current 4xe. It would be significantly cheaper for me to drive. I would never have to fill up outside of a trip. It would have meant none of the problems I’ve so far had to deal with on my truck. It would mean silent 4 wheeling which would be dope. I can’t really see the benefit in keeping what I have. For someone that tows a travel trailer, the calculus would probably be different unless the hybrid was really torquey.

Before my Gladiator I had the F150 Powerboost. That thing was was perfect. It had as much power as the Raptor, 24mpg combined paired with a 30gal full tank got you 700 miles of range, had a 7.2kw battery with on-board generator that had 4 120v outlets and 1 240v outlet in the bed. I powered my house for 3 days during winter when we had a massive power outage off of it. If the Gladiator Hybrid was similar to that instead of a plugin with only 30 miles of range I would be all over it.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I'm glad for you

Many of the people I know that got the 4xe's did it for a single reason, the rebates

But again, I'm glad you're happy with your 4xe

But as for me, NO Thank You

Our JLU Rubicon 4xe was only about 10K over a 3.6 equipped Sahara. By the time I'd have added the other options we wanted in a Wrangler, it was a wash - so, rebates didn't matter much to us. Nice, but not the selling point.

 

[chorky]

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[ecidiego]

If you close your mouth and ignore them, no one can possibly force anything down your throat.

Oh, and it's 25 miles on pure battery, 500 miles on 9.8 gallons of gas, and no downshifting on mountain roads! No need - instant torque from the time your foot hits the pedal.
your loss - not going to force one on you, but at least get some good information to base your hate on

Who else goes 500 miles on less than 10 gallons of gas and drives a JLU Rubicon for 25 miles on $1.18? (or $1.79 summer rates)

Best selling PHEV again......
But it's NOT for everyone!

If they can get it up to 50 miles I'm in

 

[ShadowsPapa]

If they can get it up to 50 miles I'm in

Gladiator range extender -
Plumb this to run from your JT's fuel tank, plug in a level 2 charger.

 

[Rusty PW]

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[ShadowsPapa]

Vehicles won't be the last of it........... this looks like a level 1 charger to me ->

 

[Rusty PW]

Vehicles won't be the last of it........... this looks like a level 1 charger to me ->

Are you using the butthole charger plug? If you are, how did you get it in?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Are you using the butthole charger plug? If you are, how did you get it in?

Wireless, make sure it's warm and the cat just lays on it. Same way I charge my phone. Luckily, none of my cats have sat on the phone charger yet.

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