Leaking axle seal?

[Mojave2021]

Same issue here. Bought last month, noticed right away. It's been to the dealership 4 times. 1. To diagnose, 2. To replace drive shaft and break pads, 3. To be rediagnosed because it's leaking again (told it was a blocked vent pipe and fixed) and going again today to be rediagnosed for the 3rd time since it's still leaking. We live 45 minutes from the dealer, they have no loaner vehicles and their shuttle doesn't go as far as I live. Starting to feel extremely frustrated!

Are there any parts required to fit the blocked vent pipe - or is that just a repair? Just want to ensure I get those parts ordered, if need be.

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[cb4017]

Same issue here. Bought last month, noticed right away. It's been to the dealership 4 times. 1. To diagnose, 2. To replace drive shaft and break pads, 3. To be rediagnosed because it's leaking again (told it was a blocked vent pipe and fixed) and going again today to be rediagnosed for the 3rd time since it's still leaking. We live 45 minutes from the dealer, they have no loaner vehicles and their shuttle doesn't go as far as I live. Starting to feel extremely frustrated!

Might want to push the issue as far as a loaner or rental car. My dealer didn't have loaners available but they did set me up with a rental while they were working on my rig. Both times, first for the "diagnosis" and for the second time when I took it back to be fixed.

It was on my repair invoice so I think it's part of the warranty coverage.

 

[cb4017]

Are there any parts required to fit the blocked vent pipe - or is that just a repair? Just want to ensure I get those parts ordered, if need be.

Read my post earlier in this thread. I removed the restrictive vent from the end of the hose and replaced it with a universal fuel filter to keep out dust, bugs, etc. Worked great.

 

[frankthetank]

Just checked my RR on my 2021 Sport S (Not max tow) and found that I am having this issue as well. Guess I'll be calling the dealership.
MDH: 042314

Update: Dropped off the Jeep at my local dealership and just got a call letting me know that the axle assembly part is on back order until December...

 

[AXG1040]

Update: Dropped off the Jeep at my local dealership and just got a call letting me know that the axle assembly part is on back order until December...

December…awesome. Mine was in a couple of weeks back and had the axle ordered (back ordered). Guess Santa bringing us all new axles come December.

 

[Steppenwolf]

Wow that is horrible to hear. Wondering if I should get prepared to buy some aftermarket axles for my Mojave. I'd rather spend a few hundred bucks than go to the dealer 4+ times. Crossing fingers they'll get this figured out soon.

Depends on whether you view your Glad as a daily driver, or as a 'weekend life-style toy.'

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Why not print several of these posts or even the thread and hand it to the dealer and say "see, there IS a problem - fix it".
Vent is a cop-out. Maybe one person may have a plugged vent but a restrictive vent? These don't generate pressure on a scale so large as to need a HUGE vent. Anything that allows it to breath will work. Doesn't have to be a 3/8" hole.

 

[Renegade]

Why not print several of these posts or even the thread and hand it to the dealer and say "see, there IS a problem - fix it".
Vent is a cop-out. Maybe one person may have a plugged vent but a restrictive vent? These don't generate pressure on a scale so large as to need a HUGE vent. Anything that allows it to breath will work. Doesn't have to be a 3/8" hole.

Agree. The pressure rise and fall is gradual (in normal driving). The GoreTex membrane on the vent should allow for that.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I just don't get why everyone is blaming Jeep for the lack of replacement parts. This is a world-wide and industry-wide issue.
For example - my wife, an avid quilter with tens of thousands invested in a number of machines, not to mention the supplies, was trying to find specific colors of thread some customers want. So we went to APQS - they sell threads used in her hobby/business and they manufacture long-arm quilting machines sold around the world.
Struck out on some of the thread - they can't get it and haven't been able to for a while.
The machines they manufacture have multiple PC boards inside -with some fairly sophisticated electronic controls. And guess what - they are trying to expand, sales have skyrocketed and yet - yeah, can't get electronic parts. They said even certain other parts are in short supply, some are weeks if not months out. They can't product these machines if they can't get parts.
Sound familiar? And yet people are blaming Jeep as if it's under their control.
I was in Home Depot as I was told I could get Ross Root Feeder refills there......... the guy looked in their system - out of stock. I commented that I wasn't surprised, same thing everywhere. Then he went on about all the empty spots and empty shelves they have - they can't get a lot of things related to gardening and home maintenance. So it's hit the big box home stores - and yet people blame Jeep as if the shortage of parts is a Jeep thing.
It's world-wide in many many industries. Shooting the messenger doesn't change the news he was carrying. Blaming Jeep does nothing to resolve the problems they have getting supplies and parts.
It's WORLD-WIDE, it's across many diverse industries. It's not a "Jeep thing".

Jeep / Jeep suppliers should be ramping up production on this part now.

Sorry, that's BS.
For all we know, even those suppliers are having trouble getting parts. And it's not a matter of picking up the phone and ordering more! The world doesn't work that way much as we wish it did.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Sure I totally respect your opinion. I get that it’s a supplier issue not Jeep alone. However I’m asking for Jeep to help their suppliers or add additional suppliers to reduce the timeline. It appears that this is a widespread issue occurring on brand new vehicles.

I am also happy with how my local dealer has handled the situation. I just would like to see Jeep corporate step up a bit more here.

What do you expect Jeep to do that others, such as GM, cannot?
Add additional suppliers? Not possible since these are specialized parts made for specific vehicles. There's not a chance that there's anyone who can suddenly start making Dana axles, for example. Every company is stretched right now - so what does company A stop making for GM so they can make parts for FCA? What do you want them to do?
It takes millions, in some cases, billions - look at the world-wide electronic chip shortage - Intel is looking to ramp up production, but it is going to take a whole lot of time and many millions of dollars. The impact won't be felt for months after they start up new facilities.
You can't just say to Dana -we want you do get your axles from another company so you can supply us more and faster. Doesn't work that way. You can bet your sweet aunt Bippy that Jeep is leaning hard on suppliers and doing all they can already.
GM - leaving some things out of new trucks due to shortages and compensating buyers with - a $50 price reduction! Wow.
You think with the world-wide power and billions behind GM that they aren't doing everything they can? And you want Jeep to "do more" - get parts from other suppliers?
The issue is with Dana axles and seals. Do you want Jeep to start using Ford axles? Guess what - can't do that. Changes all sorts of ratings and certifications.
Want Dana to start buying parts from another source? Can't do that without a whole hell of a lot of paperwork. Change control, QA testing, certifications, etc. and now Jeep has another issue of changing parts listings.......

Bottom line - I've been involved in manufacturing and spec'ing parts. It's not as easy as getting from another source (for one thing, there won't BE other sources) and it's not as easy as buying from someone else and starting to use those parts in days, weeks, even months.

What you are asking is quite literally, not possible. Manufacturing, especially of vehicles that have to go through all sorts of testing, certifications, and more, very complex ordeal to get supplies, often through third parties. If the supplier is maxing out right now - how do you force them to make more - and meet quality needs?

 

[Mojave2021]

Thanks Shadowpapa for the explanation. You’re correct that I don’t have career experience in the manufacturing industry. Very valid points and always great to learn from my fellow forum members.

This is just the most expensive new vehicle I’ve ever bought and I’ve never run into an issue like this one across any of the new vehicles I’ve bought in the past 30 years. I’ll try to be patient and get good practice topping off my diff?. Thanks again

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Funny thing about differential leaks - I've seen ones that have been leaking for months, that weren't down on fluid. If it requires "topping off" even once a month, it's got to be one hell of a leak. A drop of lube goes a very long ways. 2 ounces would cover your wheel and make quite a large spot in the garage, but you'd likely not notice it being low in the differential.

On the positive side - the lack of engineering, lack of testing, lack of production, lack of parts was a very very good thing for my wife on her wanting to trade her 2018 WK2 on a 2021 - it delayed Jeep's plans on changing that platform. My wife did NOT want the new platform, she wanted a new one just like what she had. Thankfully, all the delays and shortages meant the 2021 (now more like 2021 1/2) was delayed and they were forced to keep producing the earlier platform. Made her VERY happy to see the change couldn't happen.

 

[AXG1040]

It’s pretty easy to check the level and clean the rim to keep it from building up. Sure a new vehicle shouldn’t do this but it will get fixed at some point. Not convinced the new axle is the fix but we will see. I was the first at my dealer with this but I know others have it but haven’t looked to find it. I think it is more widespread. I won’t let it ruin my love of this truck. I reached out to my dealer this morning for an ETA on the axle. Waiting to hear.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I think I saw in this thread, but want to clarify - the person who is/was tracking - this is a 2021 model year only, correct? And wasn't it determined to be only the max tow and Rubicon axles? Or did I see that wrong?

 

[flipmode]

I've got a '21 Overland, and it leaks, pending a replacement part delivery on 8/6.

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