Lifter tick?

[ShadowsPapa]

Honestly I have no idea what is the difference, that info came from another user. I'll try and look for that users response and post it here...give me a sec, I just logged into work lol

Has anyone else noticed that there's more activity here during 7am to 5pm than there is in the evening after typical work hours?

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[imallcrawl]

The JK appears to have been resolved with different follower roller design.
The JL and JT with the PUG use a different design -
with luck (and care) you won't experience it..........

Apparently it was you @ShadowsPapa who responded about the difference between the JK and JL/JT. But I swear there was a response specifically stating about the 2025 engines? I could be wrong, but I'm still searching.

 

[imallcrawl]

I have no idea where I saw that, maybe it was in a different forum LOL? But I did find this:

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/...is-the-newer-engine-better-in-2025-etc.95990/

 

[DanJT]

Yeah, the audio isn't great at all, but if I listen REALLY close and keep replaying it, I pretty much hear TWO sounds - one deeper than the other.

Since these don't have exhaust manifolds, a tick isn't typically an exhaust "system" leak but could be EGR (sounds like a single cylinder type of sound, rather than multiples)

I hear a higher pitched tick, then a lower sound that's more like a "knock" to me.

That's what I heard was the higher pitched tick! But barely. And the lower sound kind of sounds like the injector tick.

 

[Batterycap]

I'd love to know what's "different" about the 2025...........

A JK has a different 3.6 - so a tick would be the same resulting repair (cam and followers) but different cause since they don't have a high lift dual-mode follower and a cam with multiple profiles per cylinder.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I know that, I have the actual FCA TSB. However, is this like other Jeep things where they say "up through xx year" only because they haven't had reports of explosions or fires from xx year? But later, theyt move to include it?
The part numbers appear the same - so - my question - what changed since the cam numbers are said to be the same as before.
The TSB only lays out what kit to use for the repair should a customer come in.
Nothing about that suggests what changed, especially if the part numbers are indeed identical.

Now, if someone comes up and says "intake came for 2024 is number ABC and intake cam number for later 2025 is def" then that's different.

 

[Lunentucker]

Sounds like my mail carrier's Jeep.
Engine number 3.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Sounds like my mail carrier's Jeep.
Engine number 3.

I see our mail carriers here using their own vehicle - no way, not me. That's one of the hardest things there is on a car/truck/jeep

 

[Lunentucker]

I see our mail carriers here using their own vehicle - no way, not me. That's one of the hardest things there is on a car/truck/jeep

They're contract carriers. They bid on the routes or something. Not sure how it works.

 

[Hootbro]

I see our mail carriers here using their own vehicle - no way, not me. That's one of the hardest things there is on a car/truck/jeep

Rural Mail Carriers have special tax exception carve outs they can deduct on a IRS Form 2016 that allows them to deduct a sizeable amount of vehicle depreciation, maintenance cost and mileage. USPS also gives them some stipend for their vehicle maintenance costs also that factors in. I do not know the exact numbers but I would say at least 80%+ of the vehicle costs were deducted or compensated in some form.

Had a Grand Uncle that was a Rural Mail Carrier for close to 25+ years and retired in the middle 2000's. Went through a vehicle every 4-5 years. Drove mainly RHD Subaru's and couple RHD conversion Toyota's. Went through a set of tires about every 8 months and new set of shocks, tie rods and control arms every 18 months.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Rural Mail Carriers have special tax exception carve outs they can deduct on a IRS Form 2016 that allows them to deduct a sizeable amount of vehicle depreciation, maintenance cost and mileage. USPS also gives them some stipend for their vehicle maintenance costs also that factors in. I do not know the exact numbers but I would say at least 80%+ of the vehicle costs were deducted or compensated in some form.

Had a Grand Uncle that was a Rural Mail Carrier for close to 25+ years and retired in the middle 2000's. Went through a vehicle every 4-5 years. Drove mainly RHD Subaru's and couple RHD conversion Toyota's. Went through a set of tires about every 8 months and new set of shocks, tie rods and control arms every 18 months.

Then choose a reliable clunker you really don't care a lot about..

 

[Hootbro]

Then choose a reliable clunker you really don't care a lot about..

For that kind of service, the law of dimensioning returns comes into play. My Grand Uncle is no longer around to ask, but I from what I remember, he hardly ever worked on his own vehicle and had it serviced by a shop most times as that was all deductible. Did not pay for him to wrench on his work vehicle which was not his primary off hours vehicle anyways.

 

[Jteakus]

The vehicle abuse hierarchy is as follows:
1. Postal
2. Military (Wartime)
4. Male teenager, rural
5. Oilfield, logging, etc
6. General pop commuters

 

[Lost1wing]

I saved our mail carrier on a few occasions. The first was a flat tire that he had in our driveway. Since he had no spare, he was stuck. I drove him 45 minutes to the nearest tire shop. Two hours later he was back delivering mail. A few months later, I was driving into town and found our mail carrier walking down the highway. I picked him up and we drove back to his car. His lower balljoint separated and jammed the wheel in the wheel well. I went back home and got a few tools and my trailer. I jacked up the front end and used a couple of come-alongs to pop the balljoint back together. I wired it together and loaded his car on my trailer. I took him to town to get his other vehichle. 2 hours later, he was delivering mail.

I odered a new balljoint for his 20 year old Honda Hybrid. I foget the year but it was the first Honda made. He was actually the one who delivered the part via usps. I replaced his balljoint and drove his car back to town later that day.

He was still driving that car until last month. I asked about it and he said the main battery needs to be replaced.

The mail carrier at our new place drives a Jeep Patriot. It looks like a right hand drive. I haven't got that close to see.

 

[Lost1wing]

The vehicle abuse hierarchy is as follows:
1. Postal
2. Military (Wartime)
4. Male teenager, rural
5. Oilfield, logging, etc
6. General pop commuters

I looked at a used Duramax back 2014. I look at a Carfacts report that showed all of the vehichle maintenance done in South Dakota and Texas. It had a horrible driveline vibration. The dealership(Ford), said that the factory warranty would take care of that for me. I inquired about the new tires on a 12k mile truck. You can tell that the tires had just been installed by the bead lube still dripping. The salesman lied and said that it was traded in like that. Never by an oilfield truck!

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