chrcal14
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Preach brother preach!
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88mmm
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I'm the same way. I've only ever owned manuals with the exception of my previous RAM. I have two other manuals in my stable at the moment and I get almost no joy from the manual in the Glad. It bogs on hills in third gear at 30 MPH. Who the hell wants to drive around in second gear with the engine screaming just to get up a moderately steep hill, god forbid you have a load in the back. It pains me to say it but in this case the auto should be the only option.
Mr_baker4420
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Are you going to sell it?
88mmm
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No that would be dumb to take the huge financial hit. Tried to pawn it off on the wife but there is no way she's going to deal with backing it out of our driveway. Does fine with her manual Golf R can't even get the Gladiator out to the road without stalling two times. Tried with brake assist off and its no better.
Bravo Foxtrot
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Can you back in so do don’t have to back up the hill?
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88mmm
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Not safe to back in unfortunately.
5JeepsAz
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Drive the auto first. It's equally underpowered. If you want that performance, more grunt or zip buy a two door wrangler or a different brand pickup? These are what they are and the transmission isn't the difference. Some of these comments make me think nobody has driven in granny for five miles and it took all day. What's the rush? Enjoy the drive...
Mr_baker4420
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Yeah I can understand that. The initial depreciation rate is so drastic that it wouldn't be worth selling. I'm sorry to hear that you aren't happy with you gladiator. My gator gladiator is already ordered with a manual transmission. I'll make due. I live in Louisiana, so I guess I'm lucky that here isn't a single hill in the whole state.
Ichthus
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Admittedly, I’ve only been driving mine for a couple days...and primarily on the flat lands of Indiana...but I’m not sure what everyone is freaking out about.
Starting in 1st takes finesse, 2nd is far too short, 5th and 6th are too close. I’m still working on the reverse to 1st and 1st to reverse shift, but I’ve got lockers now, so I kinda doubt I’ll be rocking myself out of deep mud anytime soon. My only regrets are not ordering the proximity locks and Premium soft top.
I hope Jeep follows these threads enough to know that the gears need to be tweaked, but I’m going to be fine with what I’ve got. On flat ground, this Jeep will still accelerate in 6th gear at 40mph. It’s much more smooth and easy to shift than the JK’s I’ve had over the years. I’m really looking forward to developing my craft with this one.
Starting in 1st takes finesse, 2nd is far too short, 5th and 6th are too close. I’m still working on the reverse to 1st and 1st to reverse shift, but I’ve got lockers now, so I kinda doubt I’ll be rocking myself out of deep mud anytime soon. My only regrets are not ordering the proximity locks and Premium soft top.
I hope Jeep follows these threads enough to know that the gears need to be tweaked, but I’m going to be fine with what I’ve got. On flat ground, this Jeep will still accelerate in 6th gear at 40mph. It’s much more smooth and easy to shift than the JK’s I’ve had over the years. I’m really looking forward to developing my craft with this one.
Mr_baker4420
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It's interesting that you say that. From what I've been reading, people seem to think that second gear is too tall.
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Ichthus
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well, It’s certainly possible that I misspoke. 1st is too short. 2-4 were fine for me.
Mr_baker4420
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Okay. I don't doubt you either way. Honestly, I haven't driven a manual gladiator nor jl yet. I test drove a red automatic gladiator and ordered a green manual gladiator. Still don't know what color green I'll be getting. I'm glad that you like your gladiator. I hope that I enjoy mine as much.
Elwenil
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I wonder if a lot of this oddity with the manual is the result of FCA's foolish fascination with "torque management"? Has anyone with a manual Gladiator tried one of the throttle controllers? It won't help a lot in certain situations, but if the torque management is a bit overzealous it would hamstring the manual trucks pretty effectively.
Ghostrider29
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First drive,
PCS’d from Hawaii to Bragg caught a red eye from NorCal to RDU, then picked up the JT. Manual rubi, 2” with 35s outta the box.
First, didn’t stall on the roll out from the dealer parking lot on 2 hours of sleep, so that’s a win! It’s been 13 years since I drove a manual and 5 since I sold my last motorcycle.
To jump to it, the drive is badass and fun! Yes first and second are short then a long jump to third, got it, took about 10 miles to get that down after reading all the reviews they helped a lot. I think the gearing is on purpose and definitely has off road applications and tow applications. Just think how annoying some trucks are going down steep grades, second gear gets rolling to fast and first is like crawling, JT gearing should work well.
The shifting. So obviously the start switch on the clutch, has to be completely on the floor to start. That’s how I put my seat position based off sitting back and not leaning forward or sliding forward to depress the clutch to start. Felt too far forward in the seat for me on the brake and gas, I drive more loose and further back for less over control on the brake and gas! Anyways, it work ok, then I found the fiction zone in the clutch, first 1/5 no effect on the clutch and last 2/5th’s of the clutch have no effect. So the middle is money no need for long peddle shifts. Once I forgives that out I went right to my seat position so my foot mostly stays on the floor with full ankle articulations for shifts and I just lean into it for starts.
As for the shifter, I was babying it first hour and was grabbing gears smooth, made me laugh at my self. After I quit pussyfooting around and deliberately put it in gear like a man, it got smooth. Now, I throw it in gear with confidence shifting is great I love the direct link short through, tones of feel. You shouldn’t ever hear a gear grind with this shifter, it’s either in or out. downshifts just fine too.
Reverse, I forgot how to Engage reverse so too a minute at back up. I was thinking come on dumbass, push down, tried the same thing like 5 times. I’m thinking oh great you can back up your truck have to park forwards tonight and look at the damn manual. Lol. After that minute passed I pushed down and slipped on the lock ring and then the lights came on. Got it!
Start from a stop with out over revving the engine. It’s hard to get the feeling right which the music up can’t hear the eng. stalled a few times. Messing around up 15 plus grades in 2 wheel high is challenging. It’s great in 4 low. I always shoot for a silky smooth roll off with no jolting, and no over revving. Throttle sensitivity is the same as clutch petal sensitivity so you have to learn that, it’ll stall it clutch comes out to far under 1k rpm. Over all no buyer’s remorse!
Pwr is fine, I look at the tach with this eng like a sport bike I have no problem after break in driving through pwr bands. This eng have higher tq hp in 4-6k range 6.5k max on the rpm, so use it eng noise is good it’s design to be a high rpm v6. 3-5 rpm is fine and normal, I did keep all shifting at 3k just for the drivetrain breaking a few over 3k but with 231miles I still need a few WOT runs. I also keep it low for watching fuel, I was curious, 2-2.4k flat ground was best for fuel in just about all gears. Damn fun car.
Oh yeah steering ha. Great feeling and response, you have to drive it! Rides like a caddie with the mopar 2” 35’s are about 39psi cold I think I’ll go down a few psi hot is 41-42.
Pic next to rented f150 crewcab.
PCS’d from Hawaii to Bragg caught a red eye from NorCal to RDU, then picked up the JT. Manual rubi, 2” with 35s outta the box.
First, didn’t stall on the roll out from the dealer parking lot on 2 hours of sleep, so that’s a win! It’s been 13 years since I drove a manual and 5 since I sold my last motorcycle.
To jump to it, the drive is badass and fun! Yes first and second are short then a long jump to third, got it, took about 10 miles to get that down after reading all the reviews they helped a lot. I think the gearing is on purpose and definitely has off road applications and tow applications. Just think how annoying some trucks are going down steep grades, second gear gets rolling to fast and first is like crawling, JT gearing should work well.
The shifting. So obviously the start switch on the clutch, has to be completely on the floor to start. That’s how I put my seat position based off sitting back and not leaning forward or sliding forward to depress the clutch to start. Felt too far forward in the seat for me on the brake and gas, I drive more loose and further back for less over control on the brake and gas! Anyways, it work ok, then I found the fiction zone in the clutch, first 1/5 no effect on the clutch and last 2/5th’s of the clutch have no effect. So the middle is money no need for long peddle shifts. Once I forgives that out I went right to my seat position so my foot mostly stays on the floor with full ankle articulations for shifts and I just lean into it for starts.
As for the shifter, I was babying it first hour and was grabbing gears smooth, made me laugh at my self. After I quit pussyfooting around and deliberately put it in gear like a man, it got smooth. Now, I throw it in gear with confidence shifting is great I love the direct link short through, tones of feel. You shouldn’t ever hear a gear grind with this shifter, it’s either in or out. downshifts just fine too.
Reverse, I forgot how to Engage reverse so too a minute at back up. I was thinking come on dumbass, push down, tried the same thing like 5 times. I’m thinking oh great you can back up your truck have to park forwards tonight and look at the damn manual. Lol. After that minute passed I pushed down and slipped on the lock ring and then the lights came on. Got it!
Start from a stop with out over revving the engine. It’s hard to get the feeling right which the music up can’t hear the eng. stalled a few times. Messing around up 15 plus grades in 2 wheel high is challenging. It’s great in 4 low. I always shoot for a silky smooth roll off with no jolting, and no over revving. Throttle sensitivity is the same as clutch petal sensitivity so you have to learn that, it’ll stall it clutch comes out to far under 1k rpm. Over all no buyer’s remorse!
Pwr is fine, I look at the tach with this eng like a sport bike I have no problem after break in driving through pwr bands. This eng have higher tq hp in 4-6k range 6.5k max on the rpm, so use it eng noise is good it’s design to be a high rpm v6. 3-5 rpm is fine and normal, I did keep all shifting at 3k just for the drivetrain breaking a few over 3k but with 231miles I still need a few WOT runs. I also keep it low for watching fuel, I was curious, 2-2.4k flat ground was best for fuel in just about all gears. Damn fun car.
Oh yeah steering ha. Great feeling and response, you have to drive it! Rides like a caddie with the mopar 2” 35’s are about 39psi cold I think I’ll go down a few psi hot is 41-42.
Pic next to rented f150 crewcab.
RavensEyeOffroad
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I think you will like the green, cant wait to see it.
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