Manual Transmission Recall 19A

[Tomentose]

So i got a notice that my Jeep has this active recall that has apparently cause some injury and could cause more issues and dangers to other road users and occupants.
I am legitimately worried for the safety of my kids whom i transport in the truck because about a Month or two before getting this notice i started smelling burnt metal inside the cabin periodically when driving up to highway speeds.
It worries me more that they say there is no fix as parts don't exist seeing as it appears to be a design flaw versus faulty parts... do they expect me to drive this thing and just hope it doesn't get worse??? Since I'm smelling the burning, will they do anything for me? Should i cut and run to an auto or something else? Help!

The recall reads as follows:

Vehicles Recalled
• Jeep Wrangler SUVs manufactured between Aug. 23, 2017, and Feb. 16, 2023
• Jeep Gladiator pickup trucks manufactured between Dec. 21, 2018, and Feb. 16, 2023

The problem: Due to a design specification, the clutch pressure plate could fracture due to overheating. If this happens, the hot debris could cause a fire and/or create a road hazard.

The fix: Jeep is currently working on a fix for the issue and will notify owners as soon as it is available.



How to contact the manufacturer: Owners may contact Jeep at 800-853-1403.

@JeepCares if you are out there, your input would help too

NHTSA campaign number: 23V116. Jeep’s own number for this recall is 19A.

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[ShadowsPapa]

They finally realized it was a design flaw?

If it smells hot, it probably is. At first it appeared to be isolated to heavy torque situations (towing and more) but there's enough damage being done where they were not towing or doing harsh driving - I'd be concerned. I'd have the dealer at least look and get something on record about your situation.
Far from ideal - but I'd sure get my concerns on record and tell them you smell the thing being hot and want it on record and get their comments. Might not like them, but at least you'll be on record as having one that is running hot.

 

[bd100]

Does yours display the currently selected gear at the bottom of the dash board display? If so, it should have the algorithm which attempts to detect an overheating clutch and then cuts power. Let us know if this ever happens to you.

In my case, I've towed a 2000lb trailer across the country a few times and not seen a problem yet, but something may show up some day.

 

[Tomentose]

They finally realized it was a design flaw?

If it smells hot, it probably is. At first it appeared to be isolated to heavy torque situations (towing and more) but there's enough damage being done where they were not towing or doing harsh driving - I'd be concerned. I'd have the dealer at least look and get something on record about your situation.
Far from ideal - but I'd sure get my concerns on record and tell them you smell the thing being hot and want it on record and get their comments. Might not like them, but at least you'll be on record as having one that is running hot.

Everything I've read up on the topic indicates its a design flaw which also makes sense why the notice i got on my uconnect says no replacement parts are available because none exist. Point is how can something this potentially serious (imagine it blowing on the highway) not constitute a full recall and refund or replacement? I'll tey calling FCA to see if they say anything but im so close to selling it off even though i love my glady

 

[Tomentose]

Does yours display the currently selected gear at the bottom of the dash board display? If so, it should have the algorithm which attempts to detect an overheating clutch and then cuts power. Let us know if this ever happens to you.

In my case, I've towed a 2000lb trailer across the country a few times and not seen a problem yet, but something may show up some day.

Yeah it displays the current gear but now that i think about it there have been multiple times ive lost almost all power coming out of a turn - i just chalked it up to being in too high a gear but even after downshifting it still struggled for a while. This would track with your explanation. Maybe im just one of the lucky ones. Fml

 

[LouisvEarlleJT]

Call Jeep, tell them that the "wait until we contact you" is not acceptable and don't take no for an answer until you're put in a rental.

Had a similar issue with our '18 compass shortly after purchase. A recall came out for the passenger airbag having "loose screws that could become projectiles and cause bodily harm to the occupant of the passenger seat"

The recall stated that noone should ride in the passenger seat until it was fixed and that we would be contacted when parts were available.

I got on the phone with Jeep and fought for a rental. The insistence to not take no for an answer got us in a nice JK for a week or two and magically the parts arrived real quick.

TLDR - you made a significant investment in a vehicle and it is not acceptable for the manufacturer of that vehicle to not provide you with a temporary replacement once they notified you that there is a safety issue with the one you purchased that they are not currently able to fix.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Does yours display the currently selected gear at the bottom of the dash board display? If so, it should have the algorithm which attempts to detect an overheating clutch and then cuts power. Let us know if this ever happens to you.

In my case, I've towed a 2000lb trailer across the country a few times and not seen a problem yet, but something may show up some day.

Yeah, as long as it had both of the prior recalls applied it's supposed to reduce or limit engine torque output to reduce the heating.
I am still trying to wrap my head around how a clutch can get hot on the highway.
Once a typical old-school clutch is engaged - once the pressure plate squeezes the clutch disk between the pressure plate and the flywheel face, there's supposed to be NO slippage. It's supposed to be pinched, locked, clamped, and act like one piece. There should be no heat generated once you are done shifting and the clutch disk is clamped against the flywheel.
The fact that a clutch gets hot going down the highway means they are wimpy, weak, not seriously squeezing that disk against those surfaces, clamping it solidly in place.
It's hard to believe the silly little 3.6 generates enough power to slip a clutch on the highway, or that the clutch is so very weak that it actually slips and gets hot just driving down the road.
The clutch in my SX4 was 160,000 miles old before it was replaced. Granted, that was a 258, but still....... the flywheel was glazed, but there was no sign of over-heating, no blue, no heat checks on the pressure plate or flywheel face.

 

[ATL_Rubi]

Yeah, as long as it had both of the prior recalls applied it's supposed to reduce or limit engine torque output to reduce the heating.
I am still trying to wrap my head around how a clutch can get hot on the highway.
Once a typical old-school clutch is engaged - once the pressure plate squeezes the clutch disk between the pressure plate and the flywheel face, there's supposed to be NO slippage. It's supposed to be pinched, locked, clamped, and act like one piece. There should be no heat generated once you are done shifting and the clutch disk is clamped against the flywheel.
The fact that a clutch gets hot going down the highway means they are wimpy, weak, not seriously squeezing that disk against those surfaces, clamping it solidly in place.
It's hard to believe the silly little 3.6 generates enough power to slip a clutch on the highway, or that the clutch is so very weak that it actually slips and gets hot just driving down the road.
The clutch in my SX4 was 160,000 miles old before it was replaced. Granted, that was a 258, but still....... the flywheel was glazed, but there was no sign of over-heating, no blue, no heat checks on the pressure plate or flywheel face.

It makes me wonder how long this has gone on for.... My 09 JK went through 4 clutches/pressure plates...

 

[loganjeeps]

FYI to the OP if you didn't see these, several other long running threads on this issue. Nothing new in either of these just more information and experiences from others trying to resolve the problem. We all await an answer from Jeep or foot the bill to do an aftermarket swap.

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/...h-assembly-may-overheat-causing-a-fire.68029/

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/...0-manual-jeep-wranglers-and-gladiators.67644/

 

[redriderjf87]

Yeah, as long as it had both of the prior recalls applied it's supposed to reduce or limit engine torque output to reduce the heating.
I am still trying to wrap my head around how a clutch can get hot on the highway.
Once a typical old-school clutch is engaged - once the pressure plate squeezes the clutch disk between the pressure plate and the flywheel face, there's supposed to be NO slippage. It's supposed to be pinched, locked, clamped, and act like one piece. There should be no heat generated once you are done shifting and the clutch disk is clamped against the flywheel.
The fact that a clutch gets hot going down the highway means they are wimpy, weak, not seriously squeezing that disk against those surfaces, clamping it solidly in place.
It's hard to believe the silly little 3.6 generates enough power to slip a clutch on the highway, or that the clutch is so very weak that it actually slips and gets hot just driving down the road.
The clutch in my SX4 was 160,000 miles old before it was replaced. Granted, that was a 258, but still....... the flywheel was glazed, but there was no sign of over-heating, no blue, no heat checks on the pressure plate or flywheel face.

I was wondering the same thing

 

[Tomentose]

FYI to the OP if you didn't see these, several other long running threads on this issue. Nothing new in either of these just more information and experiences from others trying to resolve the problem. We all await an answer from Jeep or foot the bill to do an aftermarket swap.

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/...h-assembly-may-overheat-causing-a-fire.68029/

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/...0-manual-jeep-wranglers-and-gladiators.67644/

Yeah I didnt see those but after a look through it doesnt tell me anything new. All im reading is replace it with a Centerforce which i definitely dont have the money for and i guarantee Chrysler wont reimburse me or pay for it. I think I'm going to have to sell my truck because i cant risk my family's safety on a waiting game.

 

[STLMike]

Glad I ditched my 20 manual for my 22 auto.
The whole software update to fix a clutch problem never sat well with me.

 

[Tomentose]

Glad I ditched my 20 manual for my 22 auto.
The whole software update to fix a clutch problem never sat well with me.

my thoughts exactly

 

[JeepCares]

So i got a notice that my Jeep has this active recall that has apparently cause some injury and could cause more issues and dangers to other road users and occupants.
I am legitimately worried for the safety of my kids whom i transport in the truck because about a Month or two before getting this notice i started smelling burnt metal inside the cabin periodically when driving up to highway speeds.
It worries me more that they say there is no fix as parts don't exist seeing as it appears to be a design flaw versus faulty parts... do they expect me to drive this thing and just hope it doesn't get worse??? Since I'm smelling the burning, will they do anything for me? Should i cut and run to an auto or something else? Help!

The recall reads as follows:

Vehicles Recalled
• Jeep Wrangler SUVs manufactured between Aug. 23, 2017, and Feb. 16, 2023
• Jeep Gladiator pickup trucks manufactured between Dec. 21, 2018, and Feb. 16, 2023

The problem: Due to a design specification, the clutch pressure plate could fracture due to overheating. If this happens, the hot debris could cause a fire and/or create a road hazard.

The fix: Jeep is currently working on a fix for the issue and will notify owners as soon as it is available.



How to contact the manufacturer: Owners may contact Jeep at 800-853-1403.

@JeepCares if you are out there, your input would help too

NHTSA campaign number: 23V116. Jeep’s own number for this recall is 19A.

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[IanNubbit]

Just want to run an update, as of checking on 7/18, the current ETA for the recall release is 9/5/23. This has been recently updated at some point after release 23 MYs for delivery. So theres everyones current update.

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