Official: Hurricane Twin-Turbo 3.0 I-6 Coming for Jeep With Over 500 HP and 475 ft-lbs!

[Uparms]

Clear as MUD!
https://electricvehicleweb.com/stellantis-stla-platform-details/

Maybe the JT will fit in the STLA Frame segment??


Maybe after 2024???

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[jeepinmike]

Feel pretty good we will see one of these in a Wrangler/Gladiator at the Easter Jeep Safari coming up. I mean IT IS the replacement for the 3.6 and V8 engines so its gotta make its way in eventually.

 

[willhonkforparts]

This definitely seems like more a replacement for the 5.7 and 6.4 V8, not the 3.6. That being said, I expect that anything that currently does not get a hemi (ie. JT) will not get the new Hurricane I6. One can certainly hope though.

 

[DaveNH]

And also note, this thing is not a long as the old 4.0, they say it is the size of a four cylinder physically, so it should fit in the JT/Wranglers.

Previous articles suggested it wouldn't just be a 2.0 with 2 more cylinders; that all the changes together would result in it being no more than 3" longer than the Tigershark (probably the 2.4l).

It was posited that omitting cylinder liners was to reduce cylinder spacing.

But the press release specifically says it uses the same spacing and bore as the 2.0.

This would suggest it is closer to the hemi in length (2 more cylinders but smaller bore, but the two banks are offset in the v8, and have to imagine tighter spacing than v8).

 

[jeepinmike]

This definitely seems like more a replacement for the 5.7 and 6.4 V8, not the 3.6. That being said, I expect that anything that currently does not get a hemi (ie. JT) will not get the new Hurricane I6. One can certainly hope though.

They want engines they can spread across their product lines. Keeping the 3.6 doesnt fit in with having SO and HO variants of the new 3.0. I feel like I remember reading awhile back auto manufacturers needing to be 3.0L or under to meet regulations and for global markets. Im not 100% certain on this but it seems to be the trend from almost every manufacturer plus the bronco offers a 2.7 with more power than our current 3.6 so why not throw a 3.0 in?

 

[DailyMoparGuy]

Clear as MUD!
https://electricvehicleweb.com/stellantis-stla-platform-details/

Maybe the JT will fit in the STLA Frame segment??


Maybe after 2024???

Nice find!

 

[willhonkforparts]

They want engines they can spread across their product lines. Keeping the 3.6 doesnt fit in with having SO and HO variants of the new 3.0. I feel like I remember reading awhile back auto manufacturers needing to be 3.0L or under to meet regulations and for global markets. Im not 100% certain on this but it seems to be the trend from almost every manufacturer plus the bronco offers a 2.7 with more power than our current 3.6 so why not throw a 3.0 in?

I don't disagree, and I love the thought of a smooth turbocharged I6 in a JT/JL (it may even be enough to convince me to swap my diesel with the current state of diesel fuel prices in my area), I just find it hard to believe that Jeep would actually give us the power we've been asking for since they nixed the 304 in the CJ7 40 years ago. Sure, the new 392 exists, but it's not mass market; it's a niche vehicle that costs 100k. I guess I'm just skeptical that we will actually see real power in the JT/JL on a large scale.

 

[CreepyJeepy]

The heat output from this type of power (even if efficiency is improved) is significant.

The ecoboost F150 at high altitude towing heavy loads in warm temps has been known to overheat.

392 is a much better option for the gladiator.

the gladiator barely can shed the heat of the 3.0 diesel….

while awesome, not a chance in hell it will be in the JT… if I’m wrong it’s not a vehicle I would buy for at least 3production years.

 

[Chopperace]

https://www.kendalldodgechryslerjee...w-engine-option-in-2022-to-replace-pentastar/

 

[redriderjf87]

Will be curious to see the length and how it fits in the engine bay.

 

[sunrise089]

Guys, maybe you all missed it, but the original leak out of Mexico that prompted all the discussion about the 3.0 over the last few monthly listed JL and JT specifically by those model codes. Now maybe that leak is wrong, but the same leak talked about the production start date for the 3.0 and that date matched the official confirmation exactly.

If the SO engine made 350hp I’d say this was near-confirmed. At 400hp it seems a little less certain, but I think there’s as much reason to believe this will come to JT as not come.

Finally, and with no disrespect, but anyone who thinks the SO version of this engine is going to have an entry cost approaching $100k is being delusional. This is a volume part, with 250k/year production capacity (and I’d expect that count to maybe tick up a bit once they end HEMI production). From the perspective of existing HEMI applications the power increase is modest and perfectly consistent with regular industry trends. People have just forgotten that engines improve over time because the shift to electrification has made most manufacturers freeze their gas engine development in favor of EV powertrains.

 

[XJFanatic]

It wont go in the wrangler gladiator...

Nikasil plated cylinders have issues and always have with peeling chipping and flaking coating. This required engine block replacement vs boring/honing like a standard engine. Add to that the harsh enviroments our vehicles are in and thats a recipe for disaster.

Also twin turbo so two to fail. Turbo's dont like extreme heat like in 4 wheeling trail use.

Direct injection? here we go again. Ford learned their lesson and have reverted to providing a port injector to keep the valves clean. When every wrangler owner needs to walnut blast their valves at 30k miles like VW owners the brand will suffer quickly.

They should further develop the 2.0L turbo into a more effective power plant and offer it in more midsize vehicles similar to what ford did.

Guess my JLU is about to self implode at 40k with 25k of that being rental miles. All with more power and mileage compared to a 3.6.

While all DI engines will get build up in the valves, the 2.0T actually seems to be pretty clean with more than a few well into the 80-100k mileage and not showing drivability issues.

So the way I look at it is you either get to blast valves at some point (2.0T) or replace cams at some point (3.6). None of the engines currently in the JT/JL platform are perfect, but they are all solid choices. Gone are the days that you can run your 4.0l equipped Jeep upside down and still be fine for another 100k.

 

[IanNubbit]

The cylinder bore in the 6.4L is 4.095". 4 cylinders on each side.
Cylinder bore in the 2.0L = 3.27" I think it's the same bore for the new I6 = 6 pistons in a row.
So all things being equal, 4 x 4.095 = 16.38"
6 x 3.27 = 19.62" 3.24" difference.
At first glance, it seems too long, however the pistons are closer together in the 2.0/3.0 vs the 6.4. The wall between them is thinner (which is kinda scary) Add to this, the 2 banks of pistons in the 6.4 are offset so you can't just add up the diameter of 4 pistons. One row of pistons is shifted forward from the other
For reference (pic is a 6.4L)

If the banks are offset enough, I could see the overall length of the 3.0L being near the same as the 6.4L, allowing it to fit in the current JL/JT platform. Probably be Tight tho-

We will have one soon enough in the dealer. I’ll be happy to measure. Good chance the 3.0 will be taller too. A big factor is front acceories.

 

[Uparms]

Feel pretty good we will see one of these in a Wrangler/Gladiator at the Easter Jeep Safari coming up. I mean IT IS the replacement for the 3.6 and V8 engines so its gotta make its way in eventually.

If not his year, maybe next. Good idea!

 

[Sazabi19]

Honestly I think they didn't announce the 6.4 coming to the Gladiator BECAUSE this was coming down the pipes. I think it will come to us in the SO form and I'm OK with that. I think it will use more fuel and premium at that. I don't see how anyone thinks they're going to save money at the pumps with this. Now, this as the ICE in a PHEV could be very good, but we'll have to wait and see.

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