Purchased a Warn VR EVO 12, steel cable

[BlackRuby23]

I needed a winch for a job I am doing, and the price was right on this thing. I found it for $630 + tax local. The synthetic cable EVO 12s was over $350 more. From all the research I did, I can swap the fairlead and cable over to synthetic because there is no difference between the 12 and 12s.

I bought a receiver mount carrier for this thing which will allow me to use it on different vehicles. That being said, I also have considered installing it on the front of the Jeep permanently at some not-so-distant point in the future, but it's pretty heavy. I'm wondering - would a 10k be a better size for the Jeep? I'm not sure how the weight will impact the Jeep's handling and suspension.

PS - I forgot to mention there's a $100 rebate, so the $530 seemed a steal.

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[rharr]

Stop over thinking weight, 20-50lbs up front isn't going do a damn thing.

Stock rubicon suspension sucks with or with out more weight in the front so it doesn't really matter.

If you are using the winch for work then steel cable is better because it can take a lot more abuse.

 

[jac04]

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I bought a receiver mount carrier for this thing which will allow me to use it on different vehicles.
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Just be aware of any limitations of the receiver mount as well as the vehicle receiver hitch that it is being used with.

 

[BlackRuby23]

I assembled the whole thing and used it today. I am very happy with the performance. What's strange is that there was already a burr on the cable about 3/4 of the way into the drum. It bit me and made me bleed and I hadn't even used the winch yet, I was just unwinding it. Definitely need to always wear heavy gloves. I think I do prefer steel cable just because dragging it around on rocks and stuff doesn't bother it.

This thing is HEAVY on a carrier, though. Probably close to 120 lbs. I tweaked my good knee squatting with it, which sucks. That has me considering whether or not I want to cart this thing around from truck to truck.

 

[fourfa]

The Evo 10 and 12 are the same size and weight IIRC - same case and motor, just different gear ratios. So the 12 has more pull force but slower line speed. In real world use pull force means a lot more than line speed IMO. It’s rare to need a long sustained pull, but more force is always nice as you’re usually five wraps deep thus only getting half the rated pull to start.

As my rig has gotten heavier over time I’ve come to wish I had the 12 instead of the 10. I use an X-Lock so I can pull all the line out down to the first wrap and shorten the tie-in wherever I need. But it’s an extra hassle.

In short since you already have a 12 that you got a good deal on, forget about it and just use it

 

[Lost1wing]

I'm with on not wanting to haul it from truck to truck. I put them on both of my trucks, my toys and my trailers. Besides, sometimes you need a winch on the spot. Not having to go home to get one or dig it out of the bed is a plus.

 

[Zachanadandy]

Cradle mounts suck. They don't hold up to angled pulls. 9 times or of 10 you're in a terrible spot trying to wrestle the winch through the mud/snow/rocks that you're stuck in to install it and use it. As far as "dragging in rocks" synthetic is so light is not an issue. Unless of course you're talking a pull where you're stressing the vehicle with the line rubbing the rocks, but that's hard on steel line too. They make winch sleeves you can slide over the line to protect it if you do have to pull over/ around a rock. For the weight savings alone is never go back to steel. The fact that the synthetic has never made me bleed is just a bonus.

 

[cranbiz]

I have had both steel and synthetic line. Personally, I won't go back to steel line on a Jeep. There are advantages and disadvantages to both, for me, the pro's of synthetic outweigh the con's.

I wheel in rock so I do use both the sleeve and have the additional anti chafe sleeves. On my JK, the line is now close to 7 years old and still in great shape. I use my winch almost every trip for either myself or others.

The winch on the Gladiator gets used less frequently and it's around the house pulling shrubs, guiding trees being cut down or dragging trees out of the roadway on a Public Service call.

On a 2 Dr JK, 12K may be a bit more than I need (it replaced a 9500), on the Gladiator, I wouldn't go less than 12K. Remember 12K is the first wrap of line around the drum, more wraps, less pulling force.

 

[WILDHOBO]

I needed a winch for a job I am doing, and the price was right on this thing. I found it for $630 + tax local. The synthetic cable EVO 12s was over $350 more. From all the research I did, I can swap the fairlead and cable over to synthetic because there is no difference between the 12 and 12s.

I bought a receiver mount carrier for this thing which will allow me to use it on different vehicles. That being said, I also have considered installing it on the front of the Jeep permanently at some not-so-distant point in the future, but it's pretty heavy. I'm wondering - would a 10k be a better size for the Jeep? I'm not sure how the weight will impact the Jeep's handling and suspension.

PS - I forgot to mention there's a $100 rebate, so the $530 seemed a steal.

12 is right for gladiators. 10 is pretty small. It’s not the weight of the Jeep. Winches only get their max pull on the last (inner) few wraps of the line. You VERY quickly get well past 10k of pulling if you’re on a slope, or if the Jeep you’re pulling is. I wouldn’t even consider less than a 12k on mine. Stock, these weigh close to 6k. Add slope, rocks, ledges, or any resistance and that required power goes up very fast.

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