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anyone else experiencing this?
It all started with a 90 YJ way back. When the TJs came out I bought one of the very first, I still have it.
I went on to build an impressive stroker motor for my wife's XJ while also building a suspension for it too.
For over 17 years we wheeled these jeeps over every trail in Moab and during that time I planned and lead those trips with my family and several others who followed along.
It came to a point where I couldn't do it anymore. The stress of having to plan the whole trip, pick the trails, fix everyones junk, listen to complaints, lay down the law on trail ethics etc... to be the daddy. It will weigh on you.
Feeling sad that the jeep spark after all these years had been driven from me.

It's returning... I feel the enthusiasm I lost coming back with this purchase. I really enjoyed the other peoples enthusiasm too. We used to attend Jeep Jamboree USA events 2000-2015 and the new jeep owners were so much fun to be around! Some of that is here and I am picking up on it because it is contagious.

Moab has been dead to me for several years. It was a place that I loved so much and have been to many times but became so much work.
Right now, I can't wait to go back :)
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I was watching a YouTube video last night where a couple of guys in a brand new JLU Willys were trying to turn around on a road covered in about 6-8 inches of snow. They clearly had no clue what they were doing, and acted like they were scared to death. As soon as a tire started to spin they'd stop and freak out.

It reminded me that everybody has a different skill level and a different experience level. We're not born knowing how to drive a 4x4. It's something we learn through time and experience. When you've been wheeling for 30 years, it can be frustrating dealing with a rookie who doesn't have a clue. But I have to remind myself what it was like when I was green.
 

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I get it but its on you. You took on the role of "daddy" because you wanted to. I often know more about the mechanics and offroading than people around me. I may or may not choose to help or impose any "ethics". Its a choice. If I don't feel like it then I just move on down the trail.

As for planning...thats the fun part. Not sure why that was a problem.
 

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I am a new Jeep owner and a new offroad/pickup owner. I'm into all terrain motorcycles and own basically a Rally bike, Jeep's little faster brother. Can't wait to try it out on the trails
 

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Ya first, take smaller groups. Only take those that aren't work to be around.

We have a motorcycle group, same deal, lots of folks came at different times. But only those that really fit ever were invited back. Now it's a core group that fits. It's not "hard" in fact it's so ez because we all know what when where and how to work together.
 

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ā€œIt was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness,
The problem was not the equipment or the trails it was the people, we tend to give the negative much more weight. The good news is Gladiators can out weigh a bunch of crap. Let's go have some fun!
 
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Ya first, take smaller groups. Only take those that aren't work to be around.

We have a motorcycle group, same deal, lots of folks came at different times. But only those that really fit ever were invited back. Now it's a core group that fits. It's not "hard" in fact it's so ez because we all know what when where and how to work together.
Been there, done that ???
 
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I was watching a YouTube video last night where a couple of guys in a brand new JLU Willys were trying to turn around on a road covered in about 6-8 inches of snow. They clearly had no clue what they were doing, and acted like they were scared to death. As soon as a tire started to spin they'd stop and freak out.

It reminded me that everybody has a different skill level and a different experience level. We're not born knowing how to drive a 4x4. It's something we learn through time and experience. When you've been wheeling for 30 years, it can be frustrating dealing with a rookie who doesn't have a clue. But I have to remind myself what it was like when I was green.
Trust me, it wasn’t that. ???
I would take a brand new jeeper every trip. They were the best and most fun. Wanting to learn and really aware of what they were doing. Paying attention.
we were close friends, I think it was laziness and waiting for me to do everything which got me down.
ā€œwhat trail do you guys want to do tomorrow?ā€
Them: ā€œyou pickā€
Me: ā€œokay, let’s go down to elephant hillā€
Them: ā€œno, let’s do something elseā€
Me: okay, flat iron Mesaā€
Them: ā€œmaybe something else?ā€
Me: ā€œhell’s revenge?ā€
Them: no
Me: ā€œwell, what then?ā€
Them: ā€œyou pickā€
Me: ā€œeff every one of youā€
 

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anyone else experiencing this?
It all started with a 90 YJ way back. When the TJs came out I bought one of the very first, I still have it.
I went on to build an impressive stroker motor for my wife's XJ while also building a suspension for it too.
For over 17 years we wheeled these jeeps over every trail in Moab and during that time I planned and lead those trips with my family and several others who followed along.
It came to a point where I couldn't do it anymore. The stress of having to plan the whole trip, pick the trails, fix everyones junk, listen to complaints, lay down the law on trail ethics etc... to be the daddy. It will weigh on you.
Feeling sad that the jeep spark after all these years had been driven from me.

It's returning... I feel the enthusiasm I lost coming back with this purchase. I really enjoyed the other peoples enthusiasm too. We used to attend Jeep Jamboree USA events 2000-2015 and the new jeep owners were so much fun to be around! Some of that is here and I am picking up on it because it is contagious.

Moab has been dead to me for several years. It was a place that I loved so much and have been to many times but became so much work.
Right now, I can't wait to go back :)
I’m with you. I have a bunch of older Jeep’s…FSJ’s & CJ’s. I trailered my built CJ-7 all over the east coast doing the hardest trails I could find. I kinda got burned out on it.

My Gladiator Rubicon has really rejuvenated my interest. I’m not ready to beat the snot out of it like my CJ’s but I want to get out on the trail again! The prospect of towing my Airstream out to Moab with my Gladiator and running trails out there is exciting in a new way.

I’ve never owned a Jeep that was anywhere close to new, purposefully. But I am incredibly impressed with my Gladiator on all levels. I love the technology in it but it scares me a little as far as serviceability/durability on or off the trail. My old Jeeps are almost completely mechanical. I can fix anything on them in my driveway with a toolbox and some spare parts ;-)
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