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It would be nice if FCA was forcing the up sell that they at least offered it at a discount.
And yet we accept the fact that in most other cases to get X you must also choose Y and don't say anything about it. We let the system add that. There are examples of that with every vehicle - if you want this, you must have that.
I think the idea is hitting because it appears to be new or a change. Had these things been build with LED for certain levels with no exceptions, no one would say a thing - it would be built into the pricing and package.
We see it - I think that's the real issue. If they are going to require something be part of a package, hide the bloody price, stick it in with something else to prevent anyone seeing the change.
Force it from day one and no one says a thing - make a change half-way and people see it as such and don't like it.
I was forced to get certain things to have other stuff I did want - this doesn't seem to be that much different to me.
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This falls in with the :
- must get the spray in bed liner
- must get the dual top option.
Then a week later it is no longer 'required'.
 

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If I'm reading the screenshot above correctly, the Safety Group IS, in fact, a requirement if you have the Advanced Safety Group selected. I am familiar with this situation, as I wanted the Adaptive Cruise that comes with the Advanced Safety Group, but didn't want any of the Safety Group options. In order to have the Advanced, you can't proceed without selecting the basic Safety Group. If you select the Advanced, it automatically adds the Safety with the pop-up that was noted. While I did want the Adaptive Cruise, 2K+ was not a price that I was ready to spend for the whole Safety Package just to have the one ding-dong that came in the Advanced Package...
 

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This falls in with the :
- must get the spray in bed liner
- must get the dual top option.
Then a week later it is no longer 'required'.
So the dual top was a requirement in the beginning? The bed liner was a requirement in the beginning?
I know the black fenders and black top were the only way earlier, then they added body color fenders, then they added body color tops.....
Apparently they are learning and phasing things in - or weren't geared up to build them certain ways.
 

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What's wrong with the LED package?
Not worth $1000 TO ME.

I could understand not wanting any of these options if they are putting the vehicle out of reach financially. If money isn't a problem then I would just add the options to the order and move on.
I can afford it. I don't want LEDs and Safety Pkg. As stated, the truck TO ME is already too expensive. Jeep is capitalizing on being unique. Nothing wrong with that. But TO ME, the perceived value to cost was already precarious. As I said, this is too much FOR ME.

FOR ME, I was already gonna order the proximity locks. But I wouldn't for $1000, for example.

Probably all of us have a point where it becomes too expensive. They've hit MINE.
 

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Not worth $1000 TO ME.



I can afford it. I don't want LEDs and Safety Pkg. As stated, the truck TO ME is already too expensive. Jeep is capitalizing on being unique. Nothing wrong with that. But TO ME, the perceived value to cost was already precarious. As I said, this is too much FOR ME.

FOR ME, I was already gonna order the proximity locks. But I wouldn't for $1000, for example.

Probably all of us have a point where it becomes too expensive. They've hit MINE.
Makes sense - especially the summary - we all have those points, value to us personally and that sort of thing.
 

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Funny thing about some options - once you have them........ the active safety you want unless you never go to a grocery store or Target or whatever and never have to deal with dopes who do 50 in a parking lot or see you pulling out and pull out anyway to beat you out of the lot. It's crazy out there.
Some of the stuff on my wife's Grand Cherokee - like the blind spot bit where someone is pacing you mph per mph and staying right in your blind spot almost as if on purpose (yes there ARE people like that out there) and then someone comes onto the interstate and never learned what merge means - or don't give a rip. All this stuff is sort of like protective armor against the idiots out there who refuse to believe they have any responsibility.
In Iowa adaptive cruise could be good - didn't really want it but got it anyway as we just kept checking stuff - anyway, the rubber-neckers here - accident in the west bound lanes of I80 and all of a sudden all three east bound lanes some to a stop - yeah, it's that bad - and people need really badly to get one car length ahead so they pass you, pull in tight and slow down.......... welcome to Iowa.
The whole country is infested with MORONS!! Same thing happens here in Tennessee on a daily basis. I don't know how some people manage to get up in the morning!
 

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The whole country is infested with MORONS!! Same thing happens here in Tennessee on a daily basis. I don't know how some people manage to get up in the morning!
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Unless I'm wrong, this puts the beginning price at this time of an AT Rubi JT at $49,920 ($2385 more than before).
 

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I just tried to build a Rubi at 2 different dealerships and both are saying Active Safety is required. Crazy!
 

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Yep, Jeep has added $2400 to the price of an already expensive 6 banger mid-sized pick up.

$50,000 entry to play. Nope, I'm out. Really wanted one, but I can't justify what you pay vs. what you get.

I hope the Bronco kicks Jeep in the balls . . .
 

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Yep, Jeep has added $2400 to the price of an already expensive 6 banger mid-sized pick up.

$50,000 entry to play. Nope, I'm out. Really wanted one, but I can't justify what you pay vs. what you get.

I hope the Bronco kicks Jeep in the balls . . .
So why not go with the more capable Sport S max tow if all you are after is a mid-sized truck? People getting the Rubicon want more than a truck, that's pretty obvious. Can't jump on the Rubicon price as the comparison as that's got far far far more than ANY mid-sized truck by any other company. Get a Sport. The towing, the payload, will be better and it will be more truck. Why start at the top?
You are comparing a rock-crawling, JEEP monster that's part moon rover with sway bar disconnect, axle locks, descent control, removable roof, removable doors to an ordinary mid-sized pickup? Not fair.
Compare one of the OTHER Gladiators.
 

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I didn't compare it to anything, sir. I stated it is a mid-sized pickup. Totally fair. Don't read your opinions into mine. I stated it's too much money FOR ME for what you get. If you want me to state in so many words that I think 50K is too much for a 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon with automatic transmission . . . then there ya go.
 
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