So i got pulled over and thrown the book. apparently i need wide vehicle lights?

[Viper501]

Virginia SP have a notorious reputation of zero sense of humor.

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[Jteakus]

Must have been a really slow day for the Highway Patrol. Sorry to hear about your road tax,

 

[SoK66]

When I read things like this my first suggestion is “move to another State.”

 

[heftysmurf]

When I read things like this my first suggestion is “move to another State.”

Yup...I'll never live in VA again.


20-something years ago, just stationed in VA and was driving my car with Florida plates. I had stopped for gas right next to my apartment complex and two cops came up to me and told me to remove my window tint. I simply asked if they could follow me to my apartment RIGHT THERE, they said, "Nah...Don't worry. You can leave. You'll just have a warrant for Norfolk, Va Beach, and Base police" WHAT?! So of course i start to remove my window tint. I asked for "something to start peeling" tint with, one cop said, "So you can stab me!?" So I sat there with a bottle cap scraping tint off at a gas station. couldn't see out due to the glue. Then was told I could go.

 

[SoK66]

Pennsylvania seems to be the worst, but about 15 years ago Utah, Jeep heaven, started getting really oppressive until some state legislators put a stop to it.

 

[Zachanadandy]

Yup...I'll never live in VA again.


20-something years ago, just stationed in VA and was driving my car with Florida plates. I had stopped for gas right next to my apartment complex and two cops came up to me and told me to remove my window tint. I simply asked if they could follow me to my apartment RIGHT THERE, they said, "Nah...Don't worry. You can leave. You'll just have a warrant for Norfolk, Va Beach, and Base police" WHAT?! So of course i start to remove my window tint. I asked for "something to start peeling" tint with, one cop said, "So you can stab me!?" So I sat there with a bottle cap scraping tint off at a gas station. couldn't see out due to the glue. Then was told I could go.

Window tint is a state vehicle code issue. Unless your tint was illegal in Florida you could have politely informed them you were well within the vehicle code for the state your vehicle was registered in. Same goes if your state doesn't require a front plate. You are still free to drive through/ visit states that do workout being ticketed.

 

[heftysmurf]

Window tint is a state vehicle code issue. Unless your tint was illegal in Florida you could have politely informed them you were well within the vehicle code for the state your vehicle was registered in. Same goes if your state doesn't require a front plate. You are still free to drive through/ visit states that do workout being ticketed.

I know. But as a 19 year old newly minted sailor, I didn't have the social skills to challenge that. And no, it was not illegal in FL. Now, as a mid-40's nobody, I have zero problem raising the BS flag.

 

[Freems]

apparently flinging debris is no no. Which there was barely any. But i was on my way to a self service wash to clean it off. Don't know what else i was supposed to do.

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[Zachanadandy]

I know. But as a 19 year old newly minted sailor, I didn't have the social skills to challenge that. And no, it was not illegal in FL. Now, as a mid-40's nobody, I have zero problem raising the BS flag.

Every time I see someone getting their car pulled apart on the side of the road, I wonder why anyone is dumb enough to consent to a search. Aside from speeding I'm a law abiding citizen but you can forget about warrantless searches of my property even though there's 0 chance you find anything. It's the principle.

 

[Viper501]

Window tint is a state vehicle code issue. Unless your tint was illegal in Florida you could have politely informed them you were well within the vehicle code for the state your vehicle was registered in. Same goes if your state doesn't require a front plate. You are still free to drive through/ visit states that do workout being ticketed.

I had this type issue come up with a TN deputy near Deals Gap (as a non-TN resident). The actual law was lost on him. Came very close to suing him, his supervisor (who also couldn’t understand the law) and the Sheriff.

 

[PuddleJumper]

What County? I'm thinking it was back close to home for you and not out near the national forests, where there are more rigs like yours, dirt and all, on the rods than there are Corollas and Civics.

Down my way, Lunenburg, you can't hardly go 5 miles without seeing a lifted, spaced, muddied truck or Jeep on the road, especially in hunting season. (Club deer hunting with dogs, trucks, and radios is legal and common here)

technically it was state highway patrol i believe so not county enforcement.

 

[PuddleJumper]

Yeah same here in Shenandoah county but OPs bio says Alexandria which is the belly of the beast. Not sure where the tickets were from though.

state highway patrol. i don't even know if he's allowed to ticket on the blueridge parkway. but he did.

 

[Zachanadandy]

I had this type issue come up with a TN deputy near Deals Gap (as a non-TN resident). The actual law was lost on him. Came very close to suing him, his supervisor (who also couldn’t understand the law) and the Sheriff.

Sad how little many in law enforcement understand the law. They think they can do whatever they want and sometimes will even outright say so. What really annoys me is with cameras and proof no they overstep and it cost us tax payers hundreds of thousands in law suits. They should remove qualified immunity as a 1st step to getting them to realize they aren't above the laws and they damn sure don't make them up as they go.

 

[Viper501]

Sad how little many in law enforcement understand the law. They think they can do whatever they want and sometimes will even outright say so. What really annoys me is with cameras and proof no they overstep and it cost us tax payers hundreds of thousands in law suits. They should remove qualified immunity as a 1st step to getting them to realize they aren't above the laws and they damn sure don't make them up as they go.

I’ll disagree with you on qualified immunity being the problem. Despite what the media puts out there QI is for bad decisions in gray areas. It does not and would not protect the officers from suit in my example above. The law is very well settled in that area. Better and more training is the key. The problem is that the first place agencies cut budgets is in training.

I do suggest that OP consults with a lawyer first. It will be helpful and money well spent.

 

[Zachanadandy]

I’ll disagree with you on qualified immunity being the problem. Despite what the media puts out there QI is for bad decisions in gray areas. It does not and would not protect the officers from suit in my example above. The law is very well settled in that area. Better and more training is the key. The problem is that the first place agencies cut budgets is in training.

I do suggest that OP consults with a lawyer first. It will be helpful and money well spent.

If the courts didn't see everything as a gray area. An acorn falls and you start shooting, that's not a gray area. No different than if I shot you when your car backfires in "self defese". That officer just gets to resign? No punishment? I see 7 counts of attempted murder on his part. There should be prison and the innocent guy he's shooting at should get his life's savings and pension. We all get to have bad days at work but this kind of thing is so far beyond that.

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