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Stock Rubi axles with 40s—OK for hard wheeling or no?

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The front made it up that ledge without problem. I wasn’t able to get the rear up without risking damage, so started trying to work myself out. I managed to get the back end over in front of a tree, kept trying to get myself out, and popped the u-joint. Instead of being (half) smart, and getting winched at that point, I continued to try to drive out of my predicament. The turning inner shaft forced against the stationary stub shaft, and the ball joints popped out. I slid that log under the axle after the fact as insurance in case the jack didn’t stay put. I ordered up a ball joint press and put it back together and drove out. I definitely learned from my mistakes that day. I had done that climb several times previously, but the traction was low that day.

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The 2nd two photos were a different day. There was a bounce that day, but it really wasn’t that bad. I think I had ejected a u-joint clip prior to that, and the joint walked and broke. The twisted splines are from the rear. I wouldn’t have known about those had I not upgraded to chromoly shafts.
Do you think 40s would have made any difference in getting up without being stuck? Would another 1-2" of axle and body height have maybe done it? There's def a case for certain situations where a bigger tire will get you up and over and the smaller one is actually more stress on the components.
 

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Do you think 40s would have made any difference in getting up without being stuck? Would another 1-2" of axle and body height have maybe done it? There's def a case for certain situations where a bigger tire will get you up and over and the smaller one is actually more stress on the components.
I’ll agree with that. Maybe so. Like I said, I had done that climb probably 3 times before, but it was dry the previous times. I had wedged the front left tire against the left rock ledge as I was trying to get out. It was just a bad line by me, then didn’t take the rope when offered.
 

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I won't say there isn't risk because there is always risk but these 3rd generation Dana 44's are much beefier than the gen 1 and 2 in older jeeps. I ran 37's on my 2016 JK for years running very difficult trails and never had an axle problem on the gen 2 44's. Now with my Gladiator Mojave I'm on 40" STT Pro's with the stock m210/m220 axle and feel confident in them. I'm in SoCal and certainly take a rock crawl approach. I'm not a rock bouncer or skinny pedal wheeler. Its early as I've only ran 2 difficult trails but no issues yet.

I know my answer isn't the popular opinion but your getting the answer from a guy who wheels with 40's and stock 44 axles. I would never talk someone out of going with stronger / bigger axles but I want to impart real world testing knowledge.

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I appreciate it!
 

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I won't say there isn't risk because there is always risk but these 3rd generation Dana 44's are much beefier than the gen 1 and 2 in older jeeps. I ran 37's on my 2016 JK for years running very difficult trails and never had an axle problem on the gen 2 44's. Now with my Gladiator Mojave I'm on 40" STT Pro's with the stock m210/m220 axle and feel confident in them. I'm in SoCal and certainly take a rock crawl approach. I'm not a rock bouncer or skinny pedal wheeler. Its early as I've only ran 2 difficult trails but no issues yet.

I know my answer isn't the popular opinion but your getting the answer from a guy who wheels with 40's and stock 44 axles. I would never talk someone out of going with stronger / bigger axles but I want to impart real world testing knowledge.

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Nice truck, How is the Mojave holding up with the 40s? Can we get the update?

Have you done anymore work to handle the 40s
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