Sugar in gas tank, help!

[cug]

Talking of the "locking doors". They are a joke.
Caps are different - depending on quality.
But to have the factory lock or security be a fuel door - not secure.

You know, I’m not storing my retirement savings behind that. I’m keeping morons out who will go to the next car when mine is too inconvenient.

Nothing will ever stop someone who’s determined to mess with my car.

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[Rusty PW]

Why am I contradicting myself - you are talking generic security on vehicles in general with your comment (quoted below).
while the Jeep JT can't be siphoned from, making a locking gas cap standard on vehicles like you are advocating for means holes in gas tanks.
For the JT, they have no choice. Hole in tank.
For others, I'd rather not have a locking cap, let them steel the gas. If they put sugar in, they put sugar in but that is sooo last century. What are the odds?
So why are you locking your gas tank? To prevent sugar being put in? How easy is that to accomplish?
And why would they - because they still believe the myth (lie) that it turns into some monster mass that totally destroys fuel systems?

You said -



No need for a locking cap on the JT - if they want the gas, it's a hole in the tank. So why are you bothering to lock the gas tank?

For other cars - "cars come without ........." I'd rather they come with no locking cap.
I'd rather have gas stolen than a tank destroyed (talking about other vehicles, non-Gladiators)

Make those things options, fine - but you appeared to be advocating making them standard equipment. I hated the capless filler on the Grand Cherokee (although I fully understand why the 4xe has a latched fill, that makes sense, and it's not for "security" in any stretch)

I've worked on a few motorcycles where someone had put rocks and gravel in the gas tank. The one bike I restored was a 1990 Honda CB 1 400cc 4 cylinder. I removed about 2 lbs of sand and stones that someone dropped in.

 

[Lost1wing]

I've worked on a few motorcycles where someone had put rocks and gravel in the gas tank. The one bike I restored was a 1990 Honda CB 1 400cc 4 cylinder. I removed about 2 lbs of sand and stones that someone dropped in.

That's one way to get the rust out!

 

[SargeDiesel]

No, there is another flap in the tank end of the fill hose. I found it when i tried to install diesel heater inlet pipe to the fuel filler hose.

I also removed the nozzle restrictor, have to also careful when filling from truck nozzle.

Ahh... the flap probably has more to do with back flow or sloshing... it might actually contribute to the fill-up burps we experience after restricter removal.

 

[Rusty PW]

That's one way to get the rust out!

A bunch of small nuts (1/4" and smaller) mixed with rust remover. Fill to top of the filler. Shake like hell for 30 minutes. Let sit for a few hours. Repeat a couple of times. Let sit overnight. Drain and flush. Repeat if needed.

 

[Cburd61]

Back in the early 70’s, during the gas crises, my family put locking caps on everything we had. There was a very legitimate reason back then. (Was real fun when I ditched school one time, was running on fumes, and had to call my dad because I didn’t have the key to the cap!). When we moved to rural South Carolina in ‘80, it didn’t seem to be an issue anymore, so future vehicles didn’t get one. Except for my Harley. It lasted about a year, then the lock messed up. Once I finally got it off, never got another locking cap.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Back in the early 70’s, during the gas crises, my family put locking caps on everything we had. There was a very legitimate reason back then. (Was real fun when I ditched school one time, was running on fumes, and had to call my dad because I didn’t have the key to the cap!). When we moved to rural South Carolina in ‘80, it didn’t seem to be an issue anymore, so future vehicles didn’t get one. Except for my Harley. It lasted about a year, then the lock messed up. Once I finally got it off, never got another locking cap.

Location location location.
Some places it's just not a problem, some places it's nothing but a problem.
67 years old, first car at age 14, worked as mechanic for years, no one in our family has even ever had a problem.
Not saying that means "never gonna happen" but I go back to --location location....

 

[Rusty PW]

Location location location.
Some places it's just not a problem, some places it's nothing but a problem.
67 years old, first car at age 14, worked as mechanic for years, no one in our family has even ever had a problem.
Not saying that means "never gonna happen" but I go back to --location location....

Now they are using a cordless drill and drilling a hole in the bottom of the gas tank. And are using the oil change catch basins to catch the gas coming out.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Now they are using a cordless drill and drilling a hole in the bottom of the gas tank. And are using the oil change catch basins to catch the gas coming out.

Back a few posts I mentioned this very thing - not in the detail, but that's exactly what was happening. All of the gas stolen was done that way. Multiple vehicle in one town.
It was months back when gas prices really spiked up.
You can get the catch containers at Walmart or Amazon dirt cheap, knock a hole in the tank and let it run into the container, pick it up and walk away.
That's how the cops said it was happening. My wife said it was some quilting acquaintances telling about it in their town.

 

[Cape taco12]

One of the best and totally harmless practical jokes is the XL zip tie around the driveshaft. So the tail thwaps the tub as it rotates.

In my old off-road club we used to do that mid trail to new members or other clubs doing ride along with us. About 30 seconds of panic wondering what was broken then 10 minutes of laughter.

 

[Snow-Jave!]

Sorry guys, no exciting back story. I believe it happened during the Superbowl as that is the only time the garage door was open. Yes, it was in the garage. I took the Jeep out that morning to get some beer and brats for the game (also filled the gas tank). I usually close the garage door but for some reason I left it open. I did not close it until after the game when I went to bed. Garage door has been closed and I have not driven it since. Noticed the white crystal stuff Thursday evening when I went in the garage to get a tool. I am Widowed and don't have any enemies (that I know of). I am totally baffled. Someone just walking down the sidewalk with a bag of sugar says "hey, that garage door is open, I think I will dump my sugar in the gas tank.
I did call the cops. just to make a report and see if this is a trend around here.
I will have time tomorrow to drop the tank and go from there.
Thanks for all the advice,
Varooom

Nope, nope, nope. Just drill a 1/2" hole in your tank and drain it into a pan. When empty, pour a gallon of ethanol, or ethyl alcohol from Walmart through and then plug it with a wine cork. Real wood cork, not plastic. Done.

Note, try to use one of the new, sexy brushless motor drills or a hand drill. Sparks from a regular drill motor will probably ignite the gas that spills out and end your life prematurely. Save the drained gas and alcohol mix, filter it and put it in your slow blower next winter.

When the first cork starts to drip again in a few years drink another bottle of wine and slap a new on in!

 

[ZoMojave]

that’s what I do too. I have my key on a carabiner so I can take it off the rest of my keys, unlock the cap,twist off, then lock so I can remove the key and go about filling as normal.

I just kept my key for the locking gas cap under my left rear floormat. Handy to open the door, grab the key, unlock the cap and fill.

 

[abe57]

I just kept my key for the locking gas cap under my left rear floormat. Handy to open the door, grab the key, unlock the cap and fill.

That key also has other purposes .. Locking the LH rear seat back and the center console . I have a sub woofer behind the LH rear seat so it is secure for the most part.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

That's one way to get the rust out!

I laugh - but having restored my share of old vehicles, tractors, stationary engines and so on, gravel is your friend along with some thing like vinegar. Slosh, rinse, repeat............. then you pour in a gas tank sealer and slop that around in the dried out tank, pour the rest back into the can for the next tank and let the tank sit open for a couple of days.
You've just removed a lot of rust, sealed the inside of the tank and given it many more years of life. I've got a couple of tanks out there I did 20 years ago - still going strong, after that process. My nephew's 69 Javelin had some rust in the tank - it's still in good condition. I've got stationary engines with 80-90 year old tanks I did that with - still doing well.

 

[Lost1wing]

I laugh - but having restored my share of old vehicles, tractors, stationary engines and so on, gravel is your friend along with some thing like vinegar. Slosh, rinse, repeat............. then you pour in a gas tank sealer and slop that around in the dried out tank, pour the rest back into the can for the next tank and let the tank sit open for a couple of days.
You've just removed a lot of rust, sealed the inside of the tank and given it many more years of life. I've got a couple of tanks out there I did 20 years ago - still going strong, after that process. My nephew's 69 Javelin had some rust in the tank - it's still in good condition. I've got stationary engines with 80-90 year old tanks I did that with - still doing well.

Steel bb's and acidic acid. Same as vinegar just labeled differently. Used that method on a few Honda 3 cylinder bikes. I can't remember but I think they were 300cc bikes.

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