Tazer Mini Pinout..

[dayusmc]

Plead keep this on topic. I am not looking for alternate suggestions, or questions on why I want to do this....

Jeep theft has been pretty bad in my area lately, so I am adding a pin lock module into my Jeep.
I bought a Ampire WS400-Pro (Similar to IGLA and the Ghost II), unfortunately it doesn't work with Drone Mobile aftermarket Remote Start and my truck doesn't have the UConnect (It ordinally had the 5" radio).
The Tazer Mini Pin lockout works with my Drone mobile. I want to relocate the Tazer Mini to somewhere else in the vehicle. I want to build a harness like Z Automotive's Double Bypass harness that relocates the Tazer Mini to a different part of the Jeep. I bought the Z Automotive Double Bypass harness and the SGW cable extension. my plan is to cut the obd end off the double bypass and use the female end of the extension cable with the taxer mini plugged into it. My problem is that I don't know the pinout for the Tazer mini. Does anyone happen to know pinout on the Tazer Mini? I already contracted Z automotive, but never got a reply from the engineer. The double bypass cable only uses the two sets of Can wires, 12+ and ground, So I am assuming those are the only pins that need to be hooked up on the Taxer Mini. Does anyone know the actual pins that need to be hooked up for the tazer mini to work?
Again, I know they make a tazer mini lock box and other things, I am not looking to do that. I am ONLY looking to relocate the Tazer Mini to a different part of the Jeep.

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[dayusmc]

Simply put, I want to make a double bypass cable for thr Tazer Mini like they already make for the regular Tazer...

 

[Jimmy07]

I get what you’re trying to do, but I’m not sure how you plan to utilize the double bypass cable to adapt to the tazer mini.
The tazer mini uses the security gateway connectors, not an obd connector. There is more going on inside the tazer mini than just using the two sets of canbus and power and ground, it is also bridging together the radio canbus that runs separately through the gateway (that’s the whole reason for the gateway). If you don’t connect the radio through the tazer mini also, the tazer won’t fully function.
If you just want to relocate the tazer mini anywhere in the vehicle, you would just straight up use the security gateway extension cable, and make them whatever length you need.

 

[dayusmc]

Thanks Jimmy. I was planning on leaving the security gateway plugged in or put a gateway bypass in it.
Before the Mini came out (and there are some people still doing it this way) you could use the regular OBD Tazer and a bypass. I thought the tazer mini was just the old tazer and bypass combined. I know the live features still work with the old Tazer and the bypass. Here is a video with someone using an old Tazer for pin lockout on a JL:

Also you can use a normal Tazer with a double bypass cable in a 2018-2023 Charger, Challenger and 300 with a bypass modual.
I guess I can by the OBD Tazer and try it with the bypass cable and see if it works. I know the Tazer mini does not use all of the pins on it...

 

[fourfa]

If it were me, I'd buy the SGW extension, cut it in the middle, add however much length I needed to put the tazer somewhere secure, and not worry about which wires do what. Just extend the whole harness, every wire.

I definitely don't want to mess around with the older OBD versions; I use a Scangauge on the OBD port to show diesel things. Sure you can get OBD splitters but it would get pretty crowded under there. The SGW hookup for the newer Tazer is awfully clean and minimal (apart from bloodying your knuckles getting it installed the first time)

 

[dayusmc]

That defeats my purpose... If you look in my first post, I am using the Tazer as a security device. I have installed Ampire WS400-Pros in Gladiators before with no security bypass. It is a simple 4 wire hookup, power, ground, and 2 CAN bus wires and work great. But they only work with factory remote starts.
I am not looking for opinions or other suggestions. I was just wondering if anyone knew what the pinout was. I will figure it out and start another post on it in case anyone is interested in doing something similar...

 

[sharpsicle]

That defeats my purpose... If you look in my first post, I am using the Tazer as a security device. I have installed Ampire WS400-Pros in Gladiators before with no security bypass. It is a simple 4 wire hookup, power, ground, and 2 CAN bus wires and work great. But they only work with factory remote starts.
I am not looking for opinions or other suggestions. I was just wondering if anyone knew what the pinout was. I will figure it out and start another post on it in case anyone is interested in doing something similar...

Is the suggestion to use the extension harness and just extend that further not what you’re looking to do? Extend the wires to relocate the Tazer?

I don’t know why you’d go through the motions just to reinvent the wheel when a product already exist that does what you need it to do. Just trying to make life easier for you.

 

[dayusmc]

Why do some people lift there jeep and some don't?
It is called personal preference. Again read my first post... I can't explain all my reasons on here it would take to long, that is why I was very specific in my first post. I don't want suggestions because I do not want to keep explaining why or what exactly I am doing.
If you don't know the pinout, it is simple, don't reply just move onto the next post...

 

[dayusmc]

And extendin all the wires does not achieve what I want to do...

 

[sharpsicle]

Why do some people lift there jeep and some don't?
It is called personal preference. Again read my first post... I can't explain all my reasons on here it would take to long, that is why I was very specific in my first post. I don't want suggestions because I do not want to keep explaining why or what exactly I am doing.
If you don't know the pinout, it is simple, don't reply just move onto the next post...

I did read your first post

I want to relocate the Tazer Mini to somewhere else in the vehicle…Again, I know they make a tazer mini lock box and other things, I am not looking to do that. I am ONLY looking to relocate the Tazer Mini to a different part of the Jeep.

They make a product for this, the SGW extension, which you actually said you already bought. Why can’t you use it? It would be a lot safer, easier, and more straightforward to just do that. I think you’re making this way more complicated than it needs to be.

You keep saying this isn’t what you want to do, but it’s exactly what you said you wanted to do. People here truly do want to help, and they’re going off what you’ve told them. It’s important to recognize when a solution exists that doesn’t require you to get into the weeds with things like pin outs. Constantly saying this doesn’t achieve your goal when it achieves exactly what you said your goal was, isn’t helping.

 

[dayusmc]

Did you read my first post? That product does not work with aftermarket remote start

 

[sharpsicle]

Did you read my first post? That product does not work with aftermarket remote start

The taser mini doesn’t work? I thought you said it did. All the SGW extension does is move where the taser mini is. Which, like you said, is your goal. You don’t need to use the OBD at all. Trying to use the OBD is where you’re getting into trouble, and making it more complicated than it needs to be.

 

[dayusmc]

I don't know if you just don't get it or if you are just trying to waste time or something.
My FIRST post clearly states that the Ampire that I have put in other gladiators DOES NOT work with aftermarket remote starts like Drone mobile, the Tazer DOES work with my drone mobile remote start.
I am relocating my Tazer because it is as simple as clipping a couple of wires to make it not work, That is why the lock box, although a good effort is useless against a thief if the theft have half of brain.
That is ALL clearly stated in my first post!

 

[sharpsicle]

I don't know if you just don't get it or if you are just trying to waste time or something.
My FIRST post clearly states that the Ampire that I have put in other gladiators DOES NOT work with aftermarket remote starts like Drone mobile, the Tazer DOES work with my drone mobile remote start.
I am relocating my Tazer because it is as simple as clipping a couple of wires to make it not work, That is why the lock box, although a good effort is useless against a thief if the theft have half of brain.
That is ALL clearly stated in my first post!

I have read your first post multiple times. I have not said anything that does not reflect it. And you have not stated anything about the "clipping a couple wires" concern until now. But that really doesn't change things.

I never said to use the Ampire. I'm giving you ways to use your Tazer. I know that's what works, and I know where it connects to.

If your concern is someone coming by and clipping wires, the OBD port is more exposed than the security gateway is, so any solution involving the OBD will be more vulnerable. So let's move on from using OBD for this. Your solution to wire cutting is to guard the wires, not change the Tazer's connector type.

It's this simple: The Tazer works. The Tazer plugs into the security gateway wires. So all solutions need to respect those facts. So, run an extension to move the Tazer to a more inaccessible location, and then protect the wire if you're concerned about someone cutting them. No need to get bogged down with anything else, right?

If this isn't what you're looking to end up with, a relocated Tazer and protected wiring, then you haven't defined anything right in your first post.

 

[dayusmc]

So it is apparent you are just trolling.. or just stupid, either way - go away...
You clearly don't know how to read or ANYTHING about CAN bus. I never said I was connecting anything at the OBD port. I will use the old OBD style tazer with a double bypass cable and install the Tazer somewhere hidden in the Gladiator. It isn't that hard, there are CAN bus wires all over the jeep, like behind the back seat panel..
Like I said, you don't know what I am trying to achieve. You are now just making excuses on way EVERYTHING you said goes against my first post.
Go troll someone else's post. It is posters like you that shit up all the threads and make it impossible to find anything without reading hundreds of replies that are off topic.
Troll..

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