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When you buy something from a large manufacturer you are paying for engineering and testing. They spend a lot making sure a system works and does not cause issues. Not saying that small aftermarket companies cannot come up with a good product but it is sort of a buyer beware sort of thing. In my years as a car hobbyist there were instances where an aftermarket manufacturer would market items that caused issues. Especially lowering kits for cars.
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It is mostly a CYA thing with warranty.
 

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Because when I bought my gladiator new there were no other options. 65k miles later and it’s time to finally upgrade.
Truck had a lift and 37s from day 1
 

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Reasons why someone might have got a Mopar lift: factory warranty, one stop shopping, rolled into purchase price (loan), only option when buying it "can be in other countries too", sales pitch from sales person at dealership, first Jeep. There is a few other possibilities that I didn't consider/ cover.
 

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Im sure there are better entry level kits out there. But when I bought my 2021 Gladiator in July 2020, my dealer gave me a deal I couldn't refuse on the mopar lift and I supplied them a adjustable track bar to install before I picked up the truck along with the upgraded Fox steering stabilizer. i got just over 3" of liff on my max tow from the factory height settings. I can't be more happy with the ride with the fox shocks and maybe I'm in the minority on those fox shocks that haven't failed in over 51K miles yet.

I will say when these shock goes bad, I will replace them with the Bilstein's that now come with the Mopar lift.
 

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Mine already had the Mopar lift when I bought it. 2020 Overland, with several accessories added by the dealer, then set out front for display. We test drove several bone stock Gladiators, then they brought this one around. To be honest, we hadn’t seen it at first, as we pulled in a side entrance. I had told my wife if we bought one, the first thing I would do was lift it. We drove it, and it handled and rode as well as the others, and looked better with the lift, so we bought it. It also had all the other features we wanted if we bought one, whereas the others had some but not all the features we wanted. These trucks just sit too low totally stock to suit me. A 4x4 needs clearance, whether to clear snow ruts, or going muddying, etc.
 
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These trucks just sit too low totally stock to suit me.
This is the delicate conundrum I face with mine. The Gladiator is a pickup truck. I want it lifted and able to do some burly Jeep things, but I also need to use the bed and if it's lifted too much that obviously is a problem for loading and unloading. The 3.5" F/2.5" R lift on mine gives it a cool stance, preserves a hint of rake, and it's not too tall to drunkenly throw my amps and cabinets and drums into the back of it.
 

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....and my curiosity is....WHY?

Seems to me it's awfully expensive for what it is, what you get, and you could do much better and get way more value with other aftermarket kits.

So why do people even bother with this thing? No judgement, genuine curiosity. I'm new to this and don't understand the appeal beyond brand loyalty.
We have five ‘21 Gladiator Sport Max Tows converted to Jeep Tour service here and in Moab running this lift with the Fox shocks. The kits have performed perfectly. We now have four tour seasons in the books using this kit. The only issues we had were related to install mistakes on the part of the dealer, easily repaired. Were I to ever put a mild lift on my ‘23 Willys this is the one.
 

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Or maybe they’re limited to the 2” lift…lmao.

I knew there were some weird laws in MA but my goodness. I’ll have to go through the shop I found or pick it up in PA when I visit the in-laws lol.

Edit: It actually just might be ExtremeTerrain abiding to this. Don’t think those springs will work for me anyway. I like the price point for that kit though.

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I had the Mopar lift put on before I took delivery because it was then included in my factory warranty. The ride and handling is sooo much better with the lift. Mine is a 2020 JTR and have had zero issues in 5 years. Would happily buy again if I wanted to stay at 2.5”. I have a leveling kit and adjustable track at as well now - that took care of winch sag and tracking. I also did a stabilizer upgrade when I went bigger on tires.

I would recommend for a 2-2.5” lift. Bigger , I have to defer as I don’t have any experience (yet) there for the JTR.
 

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Way back in the early days of my Gladiator (2020), one could purchase the Mopar 2" lift for $1200 - $1400, including shipping. I did put one on my '19JL and '20JT LE by crawling underneath the rigs with a knowledgeable friend. I've watched the price increase by nearly 100% since then. Don't know why other than Covid and Fox factory issues due to them moving.
 

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It was the only option for my diesel at the time. It was $1300 total for the kit. Aftermarket were just supplying 3.5" gas springs to compensate for heavier diesel front end. They might get the correct height but wrong spring rates. I have since added 1" spacers up front to compensated for steel bumper, winch, and spring sags. And also replaced the lift Fox with Bilstein reservoir shocks. It rides good and no regrets.
 

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MOPAR used to stand for good quality, perfect fit, OEM warranty; all for a reasonable price. But like everything else under FCA and now STLA, Mopar has become just another money grab.

In 2020 I got the dealer to install a Mopar lift on my 2018 JL Sahara. Mopar was offering a special on parts and labor for $2,000, so I took the plunge.

The "2-inch" Mopar kit gave my non-Rubicon Jeep a lift of 3.5 inches, which is a LOT --see below. The kit includes longer control arms but no adjustable track bars, so my axles came back 1-inch off center. The lift kit also reuses the OE (i.e., weak) stabilizer.

Right away, the steering started wandering all over the road, and developed a strong pull to the right.

Brought the Jeep back to the dealer, who said they could "...not do anything because the vehicle has been modified." Then added that I needed to "bring the Jeep back to factory spec" if they were to look at it. I gave them a piece of my mind and stormed out.

My Jeep before and after the Mopar lift install
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I got a YETI adjustable track bar installed by an independent shop, and a wheel alignment, for an additional $1,100. It didn't help.

Ordered a beefier Fox 2.0 stabilizer from Amazon ($175) and installed it myself. It helped a little.

Next thing was to get the steering box TSB done. The dealer came back with the same response: "we cannot do anything until the Jeep is back to factory spec." Again, I shared what I thought of them.

Got another dealer, 30 miles away, to do the TSB: it helped a LOT. The stiffer steering box and its recalibration restored much of the steering feel, and eliminated most of the pull.

Then one day I experienced a sudden, unexpected and severe case of Death Wobble crossing a set of diagonal train tracks. The steering wheel started pulling violently side to side. Thankfully I was doing only 40 MPH, so I was able to bring the vehicle to a complete stop without incident.

Never again did I experience DW in the following two years I kept the Jeep. But the trust was gone.

In summary: the Mopar lift is a complete waste of time and money in my experience. The longer control arms included in the kit are insufficient to correct for the lift's dramatic change in geometry. For the $3,300 I ended spending, I could have gotten a much higher quality lift, like, say Metalcloak, which is much better engineered, made of better grade materials, and includes everything you need.

With regards to getting a Mopar lift for the OE warranty: Mopar warranty has become a complete joke. Because Stellantis makes dealers' life so miserable, Jeep dealers do not want to do any warranty work. Period. Mopar or no Mopar; it doesn't matter.

Something to think about if you are considering a Mopar lift.
 
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Most of the reasons hit on here already. I got my JTRD delivered in Oct. 2021, and the Mopar kit was the only thing available for it at the time. Price was $1,200 and the dealer tossed in the install for free as part of the sale package. Hard to beat back then.

I've gone 110K miles on it since, wit some decent wheeling at AOAA, Moab, Sedona, Ocala and Uwharrie and the Blue Ridge (most of it with a rack and RTT) and I love the setup. Great highway ride. Handles the extra weight. And still flexes pretty well. Makes the 37s look perfect too.

At the higher pricepoint and compared to the broader range of stuff out there, especially if warranty is not an issue, there's some better paths now. But it's a solid kit and I'm glad I have it.
 

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MOPAR used to mean good quality, perfect fit, OEM warranty; all for a reasonable price. But like everything else under FCA and now STLA, Mopar has become just another money grab.

In 2020 I got the dealer to install a Mopar lift on my 2018 JL Sahara. Mopar was offering a special on parts and labor for $2,000, so I took the plunge.

The "2-inch" Mopar kit gave my non-Rubicon Jeep a lift of 3.5 inches, which is a LOT --see below. The kit includes longer control arms but no adjustable track bars, so my axles came back 1-inch off center. The lift kit also reuses the OE (i.e., weak) stabilizer.

Right away, the steering started wandering all over the road, and developed a strong pull to the right.

Brought the Jeep back to the dealer, who said they could "...not do anything because the vehicle has been modified." Then added that I needed to "bring the Jeep back to factory spec" if they were to look at it. I gave them a piece of my mind and stormed out.

My Jeep before and after the Mopar lift install
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I got a YETI adjustable track bar installed by an independent shop, and a wheel alignment, for an additional $1,100. It didn't help.

Ordered a beefier Fox 2.0 stabilizer from Amazon ($175) and installed it myself. It helped a little.

Next thing was to get the steering box TSB done. The dealer came back with the same response: "we cannot do anything until the Jeep is back to factory spec." Again, I shared what I thought of them.

Got another dealer, 30 miles away, to do the TSB: it helped a LOT. The stiffer steering box and its recalibration restored much of the steering feel, and eliminated most of the pull.

Then one day I experienced a sudden, unexpected and severe case of Death Wobble crossing a set of diagonal train tracks. The steering wheel started pulling violently side to side. Thankfully I was doing only 40 MPH, so I was able to bring the vehicle to a complete stop without incident.

Never again did I experience DW in the following two years I kept the Jeep. But the trust was gone.

In summary: the Mopar lift is a complete waste of time and money in my experience. The longer control arms included in the kit are insufficient to correct for the lift's dramatic change in geometry. For the $3,300 I ended spending, I could have gotten a much higher quality lift, like, say Metalcloak, which is much better engineered, made of better grade materials, and includes everything you need.

With regards to getting a Mopar lift for the OE warranty: Mopar warranty has become a complete joke. Because Stellantis makes dealers' life so miserable, Jeep dealers do not want to do any warranty work. Period. Mopar or no Mopar; it doesn't matter.

Something to think about if you are considering a Mopar lift.
Yeah, when we had the rear diff go out, the junior service manager tried to blame it on the lift and tires. When I told her that we purchased the truck that way, from them, with about 20 miles on it, she changed the subject.
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