Thinking about trading in the Mojave for Rubi Diesel

[OMTBiker]

I’m deciding between the Overland and Sport diesel with popular equipment packages. Why? Because the decreased payload and loss of 4.10 gears on the Rubicon when going diesel. The Rubicon is going to have under 1k payload, something to consider if you overland or tow as the hitch and passengers reduce you payload. If the bigger monitor and leather seats with rear armrest is important the Overland is the way to go. If not, the sport. You can add front lockers if you want.

Spot on, a Rubicon payload is ~900lbs, Overland/Sport is usually a couple hundred more. The GVWR on Overland or Sport is 6350, Rubicon is 6450 and still a couple hundred less payload.

Example; my Rubicon GVWR is 6250 and payload is 1129, the diesel equivalent is 6450 GVWR and payload is 924. You add 400+ lbs with the diesel.

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[MojaveBart]

Definitely sounds like there are some problems with you Mojave. I'd have the dealer look at it.

 

[WhatExit?]

So giving it some serious thought. The 3.6 is not and does not stack up to what I thought it was going to be. Spark knock, horrible mpg (10x worse when towing), and smoke on startup sometimes, just to name a few. I like the truck itself, love I can take the doors/top off, but it’s just not the perfect truck for me I don’t think. I plan on doing some overland IG trips coming up, and I just don’t have the warm and fuzzies about it. Anyone else considered this change up?

You obviously have issues that won't be solved by getting rid of your Mojave and buying a diesel. I suggest you go back to your Ford Exploder as you've somehow managed to buy that and keep it.

 

[jebsurf]

Appreciate everyones input. Good to know I'm not the only one considering it.

 

[Smess]

I have a Hemi JK, Ram 3500 with the Cummins, had a Gasser Launch Gladiator and now a Diesel, and a 392 on order.

On a road trip hands down the Ram is my vehicle of choice.

Around town the Gladiator Diesel, the gasser was a joke compared to the Diesel. You don't need to re-gear it, it moves out just fine. I added a pedal commander and it woke it up even more. Running 35's and am moving to 37's shortly and the power with 37;s will be perfect.

I ordered the 392 just because I had to, a 6.4 Hemi from the factory.

A good friend has been building Jeeps for years and has been doing HEMI conversion for over 10 years.

He just bought a Diesel JL and loves it and says his 6.4 days are over, he is tired of stopping to fuel up.

6.4 in a Gladiator instead of a Diesel, you need your head examined. 6.4 in a JL is a must have just because it is so unique.

 

[WhatExit?]

I have a Hemi JK, Ram 3500 with the Cummins, had a Gasser Launch Gladiator and now a Diesel, and a 392 on order.

On a road trip hands down the Ram is my vehicle of choice.

Around town the Gladiator Diesel, the gasser was a joke compared to the Diesel. You don't need to re-gear it, it moves out just fine. I added a pedal commander and it woke it up even more. Running 35's and am moving to 37's shortly and the power with 37;s will be perfect.

I ordered the 392 just because I had to, a 6.4 Hemi from the factory.

A good friend has been building Jeeps for years and has been doing HEMI conversion for over 10 years.

He just bought a Diesel JL and loves it and says his 6.4 days are over, he is tired of stopping to fuel up.

6.4 in a Gladiator instead of a Diesel, you need your head examined. 6.4 in a JL is a must have just because it is so unique.

Do much off roading there in FLA?

 

[Smess]

No, I go to utah and start there

 

[shrinkhead]

HEMI > DIESEL all day every day in the gladiator.

 

[Oilburner]

HEMI > DIESEL all day every day in the gladiator.

I sincerely hope we have the opportunity to compare them in Reality-

 

[shrinkhead]

I sincerely hope we have the opportunity to compare them in Reality-

There is no way a 392 Mojave is not coming considering the entire front end windshield to bumper including hoods, knuckle etc. on the wrangler 392 is the Mojave. The Rubicon I am not 100% since we have the diesel option.

 

[2021Gladiator]

One good reason !

 

[Oilburner]

Ya the 392 would likely have ‘a bit’ less range
BUT if I planned to keep a JT well beyond its warranty, the V8 is easily-repairable technology...

 

[shrinkhead]

Ya the 392 would likely have ‘a bit’ less range
BUT if I planned to keep a JT well beyond its warranty, the V8 is easily-repairable technology...

I think real world range between the 3.6 and diesel is about the same give or take a few miles under comparable conditions and vehicle setup. Not that any fossil powered vehicle is clean by any means but diesels seem to be even worse with their particles.

 

[Nine Ball]

Fuel mpg doesn't mean much, unless you drive 100K+ miles in a short time. The extra $4K for the diesel engine will pay for over 2,000 gallons of unleaded. Even at 16 mpg like my Mojave gets, that means the price difference alone would pay for nearly 34,000 miles of driving it.

 

[Oilburner]

Fuel mpg doesn't mean much, unless you drive 100K+ miles in a short time. The extra $4K for the diesel engine will pay for over 2,000 gallons of unleaded. Even at 16 mpg like my Mojave gets, that means the price difference alone would pay for nearly 34,000 miles of driving it.

OK you get 16 mpg w/ your gas engine.
I get 24 mpg and paid a premium (Not $4,000 but $3600 based on the deal I got)
After 100K miles, you will have used 6,250 gallons of gasoline.
I will have used 4,167 gallons (I can get diesel for the same price as gasoline where I live)
That is a difference of 2,087 gallons which is approximately the difference in the upcharge I paid.
The extra cost in maintenance is the cost of the added performance & range of the diesel TO ME.
And my diesel will be worth more than a gas JL when it comes time for the next vehicle.
Besides, you can't get the desiel in a Mojave so it wouldn't have been an option for you anyway...

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