Tire rotation with spare

[WILDHOBO]

Not trying to be argumentative but all the tires will be raised at some point during the process .
When I do a rotation I do a cross rotation and start by jacking with 2 Jack's a double cylinder quck jack in the front and my air jack in the diagonal rear . Goes rather quickly . It actually takes the same 20 lugs same amount of lifts. Matter of fact doing only 4 tires I dont have to lug that spare every time. I rotate every 25-30 days. Which is every oil change 5600-6000k
I do get the point that your introducing more rubber into the equation though.

This is my 5 way pattern. I only raise one at a time this way. I don’t know if I’m right or wrong. I just looked it up as a 4wd pattern.

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[ShadowsPapa]

Not trying to be argumentative but all the tires will be raised at some point during the process .
When I do a rotation I do a cross rotation and start by jacking with 2 Jack's a double cylinder quck jack in the front and my air jack in the diagonal rear . Goes rather quickly . It actually takes the same 20 lugs same amount of lifts. Matter of fact doing only 4 tires I dont have to lug that spare every time. I rotate every 25-30 days. Which is every oil change 5600-6000k
I do get the point that your introducing more rubber into the equation though.

Less moving back and forth - you sit at one corner and do it, move to the next, to it - none of this back and forth.
Trust me, bad back, old man - you want to minimize the getting up and down and moving around.

And I know the spare tire cable will work........... and not get stuck somewhere because the Iowa salt and sand and crud have made the spare impossible to get down without CUTTING it down.
My ford I finally stopped putting the spare under there - the thing got so gunky with sand in the works and salt working on it.

 

[Mr Miami]

This is my 5 way pattern. I only raise one at a time this way. I don’t know if I’m right or wrong. I just looked it up as a 4wd pattern.

I'm not sure as you mention that there is a "wrong" way to rotate tires if they all get moved in a consistent pattern that gives each tire (after a complete rotation) the same amount of time at each location on the vehicle.

I could be wrong but don't see how the tires would know the difference if in the end if they all spent the same amount of time in each location on the vehicle.

 

[Janster]

Less moving back and forth - you sit at one corner and do it, move to the next, to it - none of this back and forth.
Trust me, bad back, old man - you want to minimize the getting up and down and moving around.

With a 4 tire rotation - less movement. Jack up the rear axle and put it on jack stands (both tires off the ground). Move to each corner…jack up, swap front to rear and back down, move to other corner….. You’re jacking up & down only 3x …..for a 4 tire rotation and don’t have to deal with lowering the spare, which is a pain in the ass (on any truck that I’ve owned).

For being almost as old as you (I think)…. I‘ve done 4 tire rotations for years on all the trucks I’ve owned….. but now…. I pay someone else to do it. It was getting harder for me to physically LIFT those heavier tires into place. I could still do it if I had to (on road), but I’m sure I’d be taking Aleve the next couple weeks after that.

But, whatever works for everyone…..

 

[ShadowsPapa]

No stands needed with 5 tire. No getting down on the ground to set stands in place.

 

[D_JT]

But genuine mopar sensors are usually way less than $60 each. And they just work. I guess I’m confused as to why aftermarket would be a better choice.

MOPAR TPMS sensors are around $40/ea. At least from what I found. I paid $23/ea. MOPAR is obviously going to mark up the price because their logo is on the product. But like I said. Schrader makes them for MOPAR. So technically speaking. MOPAR would be the “aftermarket” choice and Schrader would be OEM.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

MOPAR TPMS sensors are around $40/ea. At least from what I found. I paid $23/ea. MOPAR is obviously going to mark up the price because their logo is on the product. But like I said. Schrader makes them for MOPAR. So technically speaking. MOPAR would be the “aftermarket” choice and Schrader would be OEM.

Big difference as MOPAR will have them made to their owns specs. It's like many things. Motorcraft made parts for other automakers, but made them to the specs of the other automakers, not Ford specs.
MOPAR generally won't buy things just off the shelf and have their name put on it. You can bet on differences somewhere.
Pretty familiar with that sort of industry thing................... Whirlpool made appliances for Sears - but Sears had their own specs and even had their own inspectors check things out in the factory that made them.
A company in IL makes electronic parts for Toyota, a friend used to work in that company - Toyota has their specs and keeps tabs on things.

It's very possible there are actual differences - other than the name put on them.

 

[Janster]

No stands needed with 5 tire. No getting down on the ground to set stands in place.

…… and handling dirty tires, dirty wheels & brake dust is cleaner than brushing up against the ground?? But wait….you have a garage or driveway?

C’mon man…..Jeep owners aren’t supposed to be afraid of a little dirt.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

…… and handling dirty tires, dirty wheels & brake dust is cleaner than brushing up against the ground?? But wait….you have a garage or driveway?

C’mon man…..Jeep owners aren’t supposed to be afraid of a little dirt.

I have a heated shop (AC in the summer) with a swept floor...
I sit on a rolling mechanic seat for part of the work and use floor jack, no reason to really crawl under it.
Not a lot of brake dust on my wheels. Of course, before I work much on it, it gets washed

 

[Stan H]

With a 4 tire rotation - less movement. Jack up the rear axle and put it on jack stands (both tires off the ground). Move to each corner…jack up, swap front to rear and back down, move to other corner….. You’re jacking up & down only 3x …..for a 4 tire rotation and don’t have to deal with lowering the spare, which is a pain in the ass (on any truck that I’ve owned).

For being almost as old as you (I think)…. I‘ve done 4 tire rotations for years on all the trucks I’ve owned….. but now…. I pay someone else to do it. It was getting harder for me to physically LIFT those heavier tires into place. I could still do it if I had to (on road), but I’m sure I’d be taking Aleve the next couple weeks after that.

But, whatever works for everyone…..

I always roll the tire around to the new position only jack tires 1" off the ground .
Then I sit on the ground stick feet under each side of tire lift up with feet and shove tire on the lugs. Works slick as a whistle . Don't have to lift with arms. I have done it like that for years and years.

 

[Janster]

I always roll the tire around to the new position only jack tires 1" off the ground .
Then I sit on the ground stick feet under each side of tire lift up with feet and shove tire on the lugs. Works slick as a whistle . Don't have to lift with arms. I have done it like that for years and years.

I got pretty good at the ’bounce‘ method, but…..these 58 year old female arms (and arthritis in my thumbs) aren’t as good anymore at grabbing and aiming before the drop It’s just better off to pay someone else to do it now.

 

[Stan H]

I got pretty good at the ’bounce‘ method, but…..these 58 year old female arms (and arthritis in my thumbs) aren’t as good anymore at grabbing and aiming before the drop It’s just better off to pay someone else to do it now.

Well,reason I use my feet more than I ever have is my shoulders aren't very good shape. & I have tweaked my right one a couole times. Definitely understand wear and tear. 10yrs. LEO and 11 railroad and my shoulders are half maybe what they should be .
Your feet can lift an enormous amount just a few inches high.
But I ramble on something terrible .
I seen a tire lift which was made from a shortened spring leaf . Let me see if I can find a Pic of one.

 

[DanW]

I like the fact that the spare is ensured as good every 5,000 miles or so!

I hadn't even thought of that advantage! I think that's a big one. Thanks!

 

[Zachanadandy]

I was running one of my older 37s a a spare after I got new 37s. Had a sidewall blow out and that 37 went back on the truck. Tire shop didn't have a matching tire so I bought a cheap 37 to be the spare. I have one that's more worn than the others but they'll catch up. No need to buy extra tires and deal with the cable pain every rotation.

 

[Stan H]

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Like both of these one will be in my near future .

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