Warbirds
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The more they screw around with this, the less i am convinced its worth the wait and my $$$.
I am disappointed.
I am disappointed.
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Couldn’t agree more....just make it! LolThe more they screw around with this, the less i am convinced its worth the wait and my $$$.
I am disappointed.
Damn. Was really hoping for the power top on the Gladiator.Message from Jay copied below and very relevant to his thread:
"We have some new info to share! First, we've confirmed the JT is a 2020 Model Year. Based on what we know, we estimate that production will begin around January 2019 and Order Banks should open around January/February 2019.
Here are some additional features/options we have confirmed (see the full list in the first post):
Engine/Transmission
Exterior/Misc
- 3.6L V6 with Engine Start Stop
- 3.0L V6 Turbo Diesel Engine with Engine Start-Stop
- 6-speed Manual Transmission
- 8-speed 850RE Auto Transmission
Interior
- Removable hard top and soft tops
- Black 3-Piece Hard Top
- Body Color 3-Piece Hard Top
- Premium Black Sunrider Soft Top
- Sliding Rear Window
- Tailgate Lock (electric)
- Tonneau Cover
- 115V Exterior Power Outlet
- 22-Gallon Fuel Tank
Safety
- 400-Watt Power Inverter
- Backup Camera with Hitch View
- Lockable Storage Bin (under rear seat)
- Radios (same as JL)
- Wireless Bluetooth Speaker
- Adaptive Cruise Control w/Stop
- Blind Spot/Cross Path Detection
- Full Speed Forward Collision Warning Plus"
You do realize that a cow has better aerodynamics than an Wrangler...
Ron
Yeah but the cow is a lot less funYou do realize that a cow has better aerodynamics than an Wrangler...
Ron
No but it taste betterYeah but the cow is a lot less fun
I own a 2015 Ram 1500 Laramie - factory ordered so I could get the truck just the way I wanted it and one of the specific items I ordered for the truck was the 3.6L Pentastar motor and to come to the defense of the "gas guzzler" motor as you claim - the Pentastar is unquestionably one of THE best aspects of my truck. I did a TON of research before placing this order as it is not everyday that I buy a $50k item. I looked at all brands - foreign and domestic - test drove many different brands and motors and in the end it came down to the Ram v. the Ford F150 which at the time, was coming out for the first time with an all aluminum body and the 2.7L eco-boost small V6 which was the engine I was considering (or perhaps the 5.0). Anyhow, I went with the Ram because of the Ramboxes and air suspension options (love them both). For the engines I test drove all three ram options including the Hemi and the diesel. The particulars of owning and maintaining the diesel did not appeal to me (a huge cost upgrade - +$4,500, expensive filters, special-more expensive oil, and the DEF additive all put me off the diesel option). The difference between the acceleration and smoothness between the Hemi and the Pentastar was honestly not that great and for me I use a truck more for hauling than I do towing and believe it or not - and this is what finally did it for me - the payload numbers for the Pentastar are better than the Hemi! So in the end the Pentastar was standard (no +$1,500 or $4,500 for the Hemi or diesel), better gas mileage, 0-60 acceleration of just over 7 sec. for a 5,800 lb. vehicle, naturally aspirated - no turbo, burns regular gas - no need for premium gas, better payload than a V8, and in the end I had the dealer install a Flowmaster dual exhaust that sounds better than the Hemi (no lie) before I drove it off the lot, and the motor is a two-time Ward's List for best engine award winner.. So that is the true, real-life experience of Pentastar owner - I love my truck and the Pentastar is one of it's best attributes! Gas guzzler??? No, - GREAT engine!!!Everyone is happy with a 3.6 gas guzzler engine it seems. How about a real engine like the 5.7 Hemi. Way better gas mileage and power.
My 2014 charger AWD gets about 10-12 mpg more than my 2017 Wrangler. I won’t even mention the power difference. FCA needs to step it up and use the Hemi.