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My new to me Gladiator sounds like what everyone else has described, a window is cracked when one isn't.

After reading this thread there are a few solutions possibly.

Should I order new flags in hopes they are a new and improved design? Are newer flags different?

Or use some type of double sided tape and silicone to seal it up? If so what tape and where to apply it?

Thanks, my Gladiator is near perfect except for this annoying noise.
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I remembered this post after starting to hear wind noise on the driver side. I tried to add some rubber tubing in the gap around the door seal to ensure better contact and it’s still there. Hoping that this will solve the trick.
 

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I have the same issue and am racking my brains as to where the freakin leak is. Been through the car wash and no water was let in. Still scratching head.
I had a noise problem passenger side come to find out the drain plug on the floor fell out causing noise to travel up under the mat to behind the dash. Put a floor plug in, noise gone!
 

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I had a noise problem passenger side come to find out the drain plug on the floor fell out causing noise to travel up under the mat to behind the dash. Put a floor plug in, noise gone!
Mine ended up being the missing seal from the factory around the passenger side door mirror. I peeled the rubber outside seal back and applied some RTV silicone, and the sound went away everything is tight and the way it should be now
 

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Okay, here at the dealership I showed the service guy this thread and we taped this panel off and took it for a test drive. 90 percent of the noise went away.. they are ordering a new panel. Thanks for the detailed information!!
Mine ended up being the missing seal from the factory around the passenger side door mirror. I peeled the rubber outside seal back and applied some RTV silicone, and the sound went away everything is tight and the way it should be now
@Trippin01 Was that on the mirror itself or the triangle door flag cover?
 

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I have a wind noise in the right door that sounds like a window is cracked open. I have been chasing this leak since day one. I pointed it out at the dealership when/as i was buying it. Salesman and mechanic drove it and decided it is "characteristic of the vehicle", which is bullshit I drove two of them before I ordered this one and neither one makes the noise. Worth mentioning the left side is quiet as a church mouse as it should be.

I've remounted the freedom panels, lowered and inspected the windshield twice, no change.

Today as I was obsessing over it and inspecting the window and door seals yet again, I notice that on the passenger side (where the noise is) the little sail shaped piece of trim/molding at the front corner of the window kind of behind the mirror fits like shit.

So I took it off completely and put Gorilla Tape over the holes and went and drove it. Probably 80-85% better. So I stopped and cut the tape to allow re-installation of the trim and put it on. Immediately the noise was back although maybe diminished slightly.

This part is a poorly designed piece of crap, and looks like it is also out of spec. There is one central fastener and two guide pins. When it is installed by virtue of the centrally located spring clip fastener, the plastic piece of shit folds up like a taco funneling air off of the mirror mount into the mounting holes in the door (despite the soft/spongy/thin/inadequate and generally shitty weather stripping bonded to the back of it.

So having said that, I can't find a parts diagram showing this part, or the part number, and I don't even know what it is called, other than plastic piece of shit. I need the part number so I can order one or two.

I'm going to initially try to secure the thing with 3M two sided tape, but before I go to work on it I want to have a replacement original piece in hand. If 3M doesn't do it, the next step is screws.

I am 100% certain that if I try to get the dealer to fix this it will drive me into a dimension of frustration and general pissed off-edness that will rob all the joy out of my life and may result in my lapsing into a stream of profanity that would make a Mexican prison guard vomit.

So help me out, does anyone know what this part number is, or have a parts diagram with it shown, or even what it is called?
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That's the offending part right there
 

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So first off, I too am experiencing the same issue and have gone and continue to go nuts as to why the right side sounds like a wind tunnel and the left side does not. But to hear you explain it got me laughing pretty hard! Thanks for the info and I guess I will try some gorilla tape first and see if that solves my problem. I went so far as to tighten the freedom panel, put weather stripping all over the freedom panel (actually put the panel out of alignment so had to undo my fix that didn't work) took the right side cowl piece off and taped that up but didn't do anything but waste tape. My next try was to go to the dealership and let them tell me that it is normal and it is a Jeep thing and that is 3 days after they look at it which really means 2 1/2 days sitting there and 1/2 day of actual work. Thanks again for solving this puzzle at least for you and I am off to try this out.
 

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Thanks for your trouble shooting of this. I just ran a thin bead of clear silicon around the triangle piece and that solved it. Nice and quiet, even for a soft top. Thanks again!
This man is genius!
 

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So first off, I too am experiencing the same issue and have gone and continue to go nuts as to why the right side sounds like a wind tunnel and the left side does not. But to hear you explain it got me laughing pretty hard! Thanks for the info and I guess I will try some gorilla tape first and see if that solves my problem. I went so far as to tighten the freedom panel, put weather stripping all over the freedom panel (actually put the panel out of alignment so had to undo my fix that didn't work) took the right side cowl piece off and taped that up but didn't do anything but waste tape. My next try was to go to the dealership and let them tell me that it is normal and it is a Jeep thing and that is 3 days after they look at it which really means 2 1/2 days sitting there and 1/2 day of actual work. Thanks again for solving this puzzle at least for you and I am off to try this out.
Yeah, my dealer said the same. Like the stinking clutch, it's a weakness of the Gladiator. I'm trading for a 2024 with the hard top (AT). I'll report back, but you know what I'll be saying.
 
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I have a wind noise in the right door that sounds like a window is cracked open. I have been chasing this leak since day one. I pointed it out at the dealership when/as i was buying it. Salesman and mechanic drove it and decided it is "characteristic of the vehicle", which is bullshit I drove two of them before I ordered this one and neither one makes the noise. Worth mentioning the left side is quiet as a church mouse as it should be.

I've remounted the freedom panels, lowered and inspected the windshield twice, no change.

Today as I was obsessing over it and inspecting the window and door seals yet again, I notice that on the passenger side (where the noise is) the little sail shaped piece of trim/molding at the front corner of the window kind of behind the mirror fits like shit.

So I took it off completely and put Gorilla Tape over the holes and went and drove it. Probably 80-85% better. So I stopped and cut the tape to allow re-installation of the trim and put it on. Immediately the noise was back although maybe diminished slightly.

This part is a poorly designed piece of crap, and looks like it is also out of spec. There is one central fastener and two guide pins. When it is installed by virtue of the centrally located spring clip fastener, the plastic piece of shit folds up like a taco funneling air off of the mirror mount into the mounting holes in the door (despite the soft/spongy/thin/inadequate and generally shitty weather stripping bonded to the back of it.

So having said that, I can't find a parts diagram showing this part, or the part number, and I don't even know what it is called, other than plastic piece of shit. I need the part number so I can order one or two.

I'm going to initially try to secure the thing with 3M two sided tape, but before I go to work on it I want to have a replacement original piece in hand. If 3M doesn't do it, the next step is screws.

I am 100% certain that if I try to get the dealer to fix this it will drive me into a dimension of frustration and general pissed off-edness that will rob all the joy out of my life and may result in my lapsing into a stream of profanity that would make a Mexican prison guard vomit.

So help me out, does anyone know what this part number is, or have a parts diagram with it shown, or even what it is called?
0728191831a_HDR.jpg


That's the offending part right there
Yeah, I tried fixing it with foam, tape, cuss words, to no avail. I just live with it, but when it's 15 degrees outside, geez. I wonder what the Canadians do?
 

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I want to bring this back to life. I've had just about every seal in the front of the JT replaced - header, lower windshield, doors, etc. Couldn't get rid of the leak. Although I do think each seal made a little difference, the triangle piece was the part that really solved the problem. It solved it so well I can now hear a leak from the driver side (ever so slight) that was not audible before.

So I'm going to just order a drive-side one and replace it myself. Part is so cheap no reason to do back/forth with the dealer.

Not-so-funny story: Last tech to test drive it with me thought that triangle needed to be replaced. He was overridden by his boss and made to replace a windshield frame seal. The leak persisted. It was the triangle after all.
 

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I had mine in the shop 4 different times and after the forth, Oh this is normal jeep noise. I laughed at them. I know normal noise, this is not it plus it goes away when I put tape at a specific spot on the door, pillar area. Ive had door seal, window seal and i replaced the triangle piece. Next will be to drop the window. I found a thread where someone put foam near the drain tube thats in the window pillar and that helped. - edit - it was on the sister site, JL forums https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/wind-noise-from-a-pillar-solved.68571/page-2
 

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I had mine in the shop 4 different times and after the forth, Oh this is normal jeep noise. I laughed at them. I know normal noise, this is not it plus it goes away when I put tape at a specific spot on the door, pillar area. Ive had door seal, window seal and i replaced the triangle piece. Next will be to drop the window. I found a thread where someone put foam near the drain tube thats in the window pillar and that helped. - edit - it was on the sister site, JL forums https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/wind-noise-from-a-pillar-solved.68571/page-2
Jeep must be doing something different or I'm just lucky, but my 2024 JTR does not make the noise my 2022 JTR did. It's still new with only about 1100 miles on it, so we'll see if it lasts.
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