⚡️ 2024 Jeep Recon EV Revealed! [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

[Summitsearcher]

Not for me, but go ahead with thee! Doesn’t give me wood in the Willy’s.

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[Geoarch]

Stop buying ryobi. Milwaukee batteries last for over a decade, with no loss in duration up until the very end. Quality matters.

Edit: I should have worded this more politely. I’m sick of false statements being thrown around to deter people from EV’s. You can’t compare a $75 yard tool to batteries in a vehicle. And how long your cordless tool batteries last depends on many variables, including how they’re stored and maintained. But there is also a huge difference in how long these batteries last, depending on quality. The other huge deterrent people throw around is the battery life and replacement cost on EV’s. No one remembers that this cost is offset by the nearly zero maintenance costs for around 100,000 miles. Tires are the biggest maintenance cost for the first 4 or 5 years.

And I believe that the batteries are warranted for ten years or more. They are in Toyotas. I agree with Summitdan, and if you have rooftop solar your around town driving which is mostly what we do is free. In our neighborhood which is upper middle class in north Albuqerque, most are paying 300-400 bucks a month in summer for power - we pay $6.00 for the fee. That means in about six years it's paid for, and the prices are going down each year, and the recent bill just signed into law extends the 26% federal rebate off your taxes for the next 10 years, and in New Mexico we get another 10%. The year we installed, we got $9000 back in taxes on a $18,000 investment. If you combine rooftop solar with an EV or PHEV, the cost is quite reasonable. Now Summitdan and I live in high solar states, but even in cloudy N CA, Oregon and Washington, people are saving money daily.

Enough on that from me.

 

[Tommyd]

Looks like a defender had sex with a bronco sport and this was born.

 

[Tommyd]

There's quite a bit of Defender in there too...

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I commented before I saw this sorry ?

 

[AustinL911]

And I believe that the batteries are warranted for ten years or more. They are in Toyotas. I agree with Summitdan, and if you have rooftop solar your around town driving which is mostly what we do is free. In our neighborhood which is upper middle class in north Albuqerque, most are paying 300-400 bucks a month in summer for power - we pay $6.00 for the fee. That means in about six years it's paid for, and the prices are going down each year, and the recent bill just signed into law extends the 26% federal rebate off your taxes for the next 10 years, and in New Mexico we get another 10%. The year we installed, we got $9000 back in taxes on a $18,000 investment. If you combine rooftop solar with an EV or PHEV, the cost is quite reasonable. Now Summitdan and I live in high solar states, but even in cloudy N CA, Oregon and Washington, people are saving money daily.

Enough on that from me.

Curious, but what direction does your roof face?

 

[NachoRuby]

I hope it I'm wrong, but I have a bad feeling about this one. Given that it has a removable top (sort of), removable doors, and touts the capability to cross the Rubicon Trail, and that there's a Wrangler called the Xtreme Recon, and used to be one called the Recon, I have a feeling this is going to replace the Gladiator AND the Wrangler.

I'm all for an electric Wrangler, but I want it to look like a Wrangler. I want a fully removable roof (not just panels), boxy, stick on fenders, roll bars, all of it. It seems too similar to the Wrangler in purpose to not be a replacement.

 

[Elff]

Planet is going to look like the movie Wall-E come 2050

 

[Tommyd]

Stop buying ryobi. Milwaukee batteries last for over a decade, with no loss in duration up until the very end. Quality matters.

Edit: I should have worded this more politely. I’m sick of false statements being thrown around to deter people from EV’s. You can’t compare a $75 yard tool to batteries in a vehicle. And how long your cordless tool batteries last depends on many variables, including how they’re stored and maintained. But there is also a huge difference in how long these batteries last, depending on quality. The other huge deterrent people throw around is the battery life and replacement cost on EV’s. No one remembers that this cost is offset by the nearly zero maintenance costs for around 100,000 miles. Tires are the biggest maintenance cost for the first 4 or 5 years.

What about power outages? What about mandated blackouts? How do I get to work?

 

[Tommyd]

I hope it doesn't, but given that it's top off (sort of) and removable doors, and touting capability to cross the Rubicon Trail. Not to mention, there's a Wrangler called the Xtreme Recon, and used to be one called the Recon. I have a feeling this is going to replace the Gladiator AND the Wrangler. I'm all for an electric Wrangler, but I want it to look like a Wrangler. Fully removable roof, boxy, stick on fenders, all of it. It seems to similar to the Wrangler in purpose to not be a replacement.

I can’t see them doing away with the wrangler

 

[Tommyd]

Spoiler; Gas stations require electricity too.

I also own an VW iD4, all electric and it’s great. Costs me around 3 cents a mile to drive while the Gladiator costs around 23 cents a mile @ $4.25 a gallon. A year later, our battery is just as strong as when we first received it. Fast Charging is really, really fast - I can get 200 miles in 40 minutes. Sure, this is longer than a gas fill-up but I simply tie it to picking up some groceries, a bathroom run, a quick phone call, etc etc.

I think more people should have an EV for around town driving and short trips and an ICE or PHEV (4xE) for long trips for the next 5 years. WIthin 5 years, faster chargers will be everywhere, including trail heads.

People can fight the take over of EV over ICE, but it’s going to happen. All it takes is Cali to truly go through with the ICE ban and you won’t be able to purchase an ICE in America because the companies aren’t going to make both ICE and EV for too long.

What about power outages and mandated blackouts? Then what

 

[NachoRuby]

What about power outages and mandated blackouts? Then what

The gas station won't work during a power outage either. And just like you can store gasoline at home for an emergency, you can store electricity too, via a battery.

 

[Geoarch]

Spoiler; Gas stations require electricity too.

I also own an VW iD4, all electric and it’s great. Costs me around 3 cents a mile to drive while the Gladiator costs around 23 cents a mile @ $4.25 a gallon. A year later, our battery is just as strong as when we first received it. Fast Charging is really, really fast - I can get 200 miles in 40 minutes. Sure, this is longer than a gas fill-up but I simply tie it to picking up some groceries, a bathroom run, a quick phone call, etc etc.

I think more people should have an EV for around town driving and short trips and an ICE or PHEV (4xE) for long trips for the next 5 years. WIthin 5 years, faster chargers will be everywhere, including trail heads.

People can fight the take over of EV over ICE, but it’s going to happen. All it takes is Cali to truly go through with the ICE ban and you won’t be able to purchase an ICE in America because the companies aren’t going to make both ICE and EV for too long.

Agree completely. And with rooftop solar, your around town driving is free. We invested 18 grand in rooftop solar and got $9000 back from the feds off taxes - 26% and state - 10%. We got back 10 grand, 9 of which was due to rooftop solar. We're looking at PHEVs, which seem to be a bit behind. Toyota only builds enough PHEVs to satisfy CAFE standards. You can't even order one. I assume all this will change in the next couple of years. Subaru is coming out with a Forester PHEV next year using the RAV4 technology (Toyota owns 15% of Subaru).

 

[Terry]

Bought another new battery for my cordless hedge trimmer and leaf blower yesterday because by the end of year two they'll only run about 5 minutes on a full charge.

Pretty much every cordless rechargeable thing I have is like that.

Then there's the underpowered grid nightmares of Texas and California that make you wonder why they keep pushing EVs when they don't have enough power to run the ACs.

For now I'll keep pumping and enjoying longer drives interrupted by five minute refills.

Just call me Jedediah ??‍

I agree completely.

 

[Geoarch]

The Recon looks like a unibody crossover. Why do you need locking axles on an EV, just use four motors and you have infinitely variable traction at each corner.

I have a feeling this going all in on EV is going to backfire from a financial perspective. Regardless of what the politicians and leftists want you to believe, EV is still very niche from the standpoint of sales volume. The fact is they aren’t ready to replace ICE for most Americans and the sales numbers reflect that. Combine that with energy crises in both CA and Europe (eliminate ICE but don’t charge your EV LOL!) and the fact that the average EV costs over $10k more than ICE, and there’s a long road to travel. Combine that with people pulling their heads out of their asses and realizing that their EV is actually powered by coal and their batteries are raped from the Earth by child slave labor, but hey at least you get to virtue signal as green!

New Mexico is shutting down it's last coal plant this year, and replaced+ with renewables (solar and wind). Nanny state or not, it's working here. The major utility threatened black outs, but was busted for lying. What a concept. Transmission will be the issue. More transmission lines will have to be built I expect.

 

[Terry]

The gas station won't work during a power outage either. And just like you can store gasoline at home for an emergency, you can store electricity too, via a battery.

Actually, most of the service stations local to me have back-up generators, and.. I have a Generac 24KW that runs on Natural gas switched to my house. The problem is some of us have never learned or have been taught the Seven P's.... Prior Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.

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