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Are Gladiators “cars”? [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

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I say…

The cab is separate from the box/bed.
It is a truck.

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Define car vs truck:

**Car:**
- **Purpose:** Primarily designed for transporting passengers.
- **Size:** Typically smaller than trucks, with a lower ground clearance.
- **Seating Capacity:** Usually accommodates 4-5 passengers, but some larger models (e.g., SUVs, minivans) can seat more.
- **Design:** Emphasizes comfort, fuel efficiency, and ease of driving. Often features a sleek, aerodynamic shape.
- **Examples:** Sedans, hatchbacks, coupes, convertibles, and station wagons.

**Truck:**
- **Purpose:** Primarily designed for transporting goods and heavy loads.
- **Size:** Generally larger and more robust than cars, with a higher ground clearance.
- **Seating Capacity:** Typically seats 2-3 passengers in the front, though some larger models have extended cabs or crew cabs for more passengers.
- **Design:** Emphasizes durability, power, and cargo capacity. Often has a more rugged, boxy shape and features a separate cargo area (bed).
- **Examples:** Pickup trucks, heavy-duty trucks, semi-trucks, and utility trucks.

Both vehicles serve different purposes and are designed accordingly, with cars focusing on passenger comfort and trucks on cargo and towing capabilities.
The Elcomino is a car, the Santa Cruz is a car, the Avalance is an SUV, the Ranchero is a car.
 

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Good grief. This was covered ad nauseam long ago.

Trokhos (sp) was the Greek for "wheel" and was used centuries before a train existed. Try the 1600s.
We can easily imagine the Greek word morphing to "truck" and then truck becoming that which has wheels, holds and hauls something.
Truck was used for the wheels under a ship's cannon, and "truck" or "trucks" was used for the cart with wheels that carried large engines from place to place. When I was deep into collecting and restoring hit and miss engines, and other "stationary engines", I bought TRUCKS for under those engines. So truck was something that hauled something else on top of it.
Farm engines were on trucks.
Possible that "truck" referred to the carriage of a train car that the wheels were running on - and that again would make sense because the truck had wheels, and the truck was carrying the load (the train "car")

Carrum and Carrus - Latin and Celtic, even karros - a chariot. It came to be the word for any horse drawn cart or carriage. So the terms Carrus, cassum and karros all have a sound similar to "car". They were used for a horse drawn cart, chariot, etc. so car naturally came into being since it was a "horseless carriage". If those three terms defined a horse drawn carriage or chariot, and later the horse was dropped, then it was natural for an "automobile" to be also called a "car".

So the two terms actually have different origins and originally different meaning -
Car (carrus) to define a horse drawn means of transport,
and truck - something with wheels that holds or carries something else (like a cannon, engine, or rail car)
All before trains on tracks existed.

The Jeep Gladiator is a truck.
Vehicles commonly called "SUV"s today are registered as wagons or station wagons in many states (oh, look up the origin of station wagon! )
The modern SUV is a logical progression of the "wagon" of the 1980s and 90s. Even some of the AMC design engineers decades ago drew what they thought the Eagle wagon would look like today - surprise - looks a lot like a modern "SUV".

For over 130 years, the "carts" under engines like this were called "trucks" -> (they support and haul things)


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Skateboards have Trucks and warehouses have pallet Trucks.
 

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In my household, the only "car" is the Grand Cherokee and that's called the car or the Grand. The Gladiator is the truck, the JK is the Jeep.

My 7 y/o grand daughter is way more excited when I say we are taking the Jeep and she knows the difference in all of them.
In my house we call the GCL a jeep too, but the primary jeep is the Gladiator, sometimes clarification we'll say Cherokee so we know exactly which jeep we're talking about.
 

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Here in Germany the Gladiator is categorized as a (light) truck, which even brings some tax advantages.

Wife and myself always calling it the "midsize truck".

The TJ, I would also not call a car but would talk about "Jeep", "Wrangler" or "Geländewagen". Not SUV.
 

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There are two kinds of people who get offended about you calling their vehicle the wrong thing: massive lifted truck drivers who define their existence by their truck, and Jeep people.
Oh.... you mean the "Lil' Richards"
 

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warehouses have pallet Trucks.
This type of thinking is why I call my Gladiator diesel a tractor. These are all types of tow tractors:

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Another 1500lb load today. My Jeep is a truck imo. My household asks if we are taking the Jeep. If I'm texting my wife, it's usually "JT"
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LostWoods said:
As is the Ridgeline and Maverick which for some stupid reason you call them cars by your definition above.

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And? Gatekeeping trucks because they're not body on frame is a stupid reason to say something isn't a truck. You directed that at me, not what I said.
 

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and you calling out the gladiator as a poor excuse for a truck because your suv can tow more... you need to check yourself .
I am done with your "logic"
 

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and you calling out the gladiator as a poor excuse for a truck because your suv can tow more... you need to check yourself .
I am done with your "logic"
Oh no that wasn't intended to be logic, that was entirely antagonistic in the spirit of this ridiculous thread. But if we're drawing arbitrary exclusions in what defines a truck, not being out-hauled or out-towed by a car is probably a good start.
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