Need recommendations for center console gun safe

[Lunentucker]

My friend in CO who had his gun stolen - it was out of site. Hidden in the car. Someone knew he carried, got into his locked car - took the gun.
Had it been in a secured place like a gun safe, it would have been at least more difficult for them, or slowed them down. He kept it in a holster where it could not be seen.
None of us could figure out how someone knew to look for a gun. He didn't exactly broadcast that information. He figured it would be safe hidden out of sight in a car on his property.

Seems to go against everything I've read about CO in this thread ?.

Crooks have their ways. Stalk sporting goods stores for ammo buyers. Friends who contract deliver for FedEx, which ships the majority of ORMD labels.
I mean a hazardous label on a package from Ammoland and it doesn't take a genius.

Probably many more means and methods. Most crooks are still idiots, but there are some smart ones out there.

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[Curt Oz]

Tuffy console safe
$179

https://www.quadratec.com/p/tuffy/security-console-insert-jeep-wrangler-jl

 

[MrE. Fumducker]

Okay, let me clarify. I carry a 9mm but work in a bank, so it has to stay in the Jeep. Would like a recommendation for a safe that fits in the Jeep’s console. Thank you.

Just because it's an EDC, doesn't mean it's an all day carry. ALOT of us working Americans have jobs that do not permit carrying while on the clock. I use the locking glove box, but would prefer a tougher lock box inside the console as well.

 

[MikeVeee]

Tuffy console safe
$179

https://www.quadratec.com/p/tuffy/security-console-insert-jeep-wrangler-jl

2nd that recommendation. Installed Tuffy Console Security Box with its combo lock mechanism (so no keys to fumble with). 9mm easily fits inside. Amazon carries it also for about same price ~$135 box + $35 combo lock.

 

[RudeJeepin]

Of the center console safe listed so far, are they full boxes or just basically lids?

 

[sharpsicle]

Of the center console safe listed so far, are they full boxes or just basically lids?

They're all lids with open framework going to the bottom. They're really designed to prevent opening from the top, not to prevent forced entry through the console walls.

 

[RudeJeepin]

They're all lids with open framework going to the bottom. They're really designed to prevent opening from the top, not to prevent forced entry through the console walls.

That's what I thought, but none of the pictures showed it for sure.
Was just hoping maybe the one being 300ish was more since the tuffy is half that price.
Thanks.

 

[alextremo]

Of the center console safe listed so far, are they full boxes or just basically lids?

The Lock’er Down has a top, bottom, left and right - there is no steel in the front or back of the console. Mine actually got stuck closed and I had to force my way in - it took a couple hours and more than 1 drill bit to get through the lock to open it.

 

[GaDawgFan]

And there we have it. A professional that doesn’t think civilians carrying makes anyone safer.

Why are you even participating in this thread? Your input has no value in answering my simple question. I am prior military and prior law enforcement am trying to be responsible. I respect your opinion so please respect mine. If you have no relevant answer then please, just move on. Merry Christmas.

 

[WILDHOBO]

Why are you even participating in this thread? Your input has no value in answering my simple question. I am prior military and prior law enforcement am trying to be responsible. I respect your opinion so please respect mine. If you have no relevant answer then please, just move on. Merry Christmas.

My reply was three days ago, and hadn’t participated since then. I gave my opinion because I think responsible gun storage is important, as you seem to. Why call me out three days after my last post?

 

[GaDawgFan]

My reply was three days ago, and hadn’t participated since then. I gave my opinion because I think responsible gun storage is important, as you seem to. Why call me out three days after my last post?

Because I have a busy life and don’t live on message boards.

 

[dcmdon]

Okay, let me clarify. I carry a 9mm but work in a bank, so it has to stay in the Jeep. Would like a recommendation for a safe that fits in the Jeep’s console. Thank you.

A center console safe is not going to be the safest way to store it. The entire console is plastic and the safes are held in place by screwing into plastic.

It's better than nothing. But I'd much rather have an inexpensive box that tethers to the seat mount with a cable.

I have this one.

https://www.amazon.com/Younion-Portable-Travel-Gun-Safe/dp/B07D9DCJLH

I generally don't EVER remove my gun from my body. I live in a state with no prohibitions on carrying into pretty much anywhere other than a school. (No restaurant, bar, house of worship prohibitions - Mass. Amazingly). I"m also self employed.

However, I always keep this in the car just in case. A couple of years ago I lost the keys to one. I decided to see how secure it was. I attached it to a tree and yanked on it repeatedly trying to get the cable to come out and it was not easy.

In fact, inside the confines of a car, I don't think it could be done without tools.

The only thing this safe does not accomplish is being fast to get into in an emergency.

So it excels in the use case where you stash the gun then put it back on as soon as you get in the car.

It does not work well in the use case where you are too much of a qussy to deal with a gun on your belt while driving ad need to stash it for "comfort" (Pro tip - if your gun is too uncomfortable for you to drive with it on your person, then get a smaller gun or a different holster)

This is directed mostly at the oh-so-fashionable guys who will tell you all day long that appendix inside the waistband (AIWB) is the greatest thing ever. It does work well EXCEPT for when you are seated for long times. Common sense would suggest that if AIWB is uncomfortable for you either get a smaller gun or carry in a different place. I carry around 4:00. But when I get into the car, I slide it to 3:00.

And thanks to all the members of this forum who did not refer to a carry gun as s CCW. The stupidest term on the planet. It's more syllables than the word gun. It's more keystrokes. And it's less accurate. (A CCW could be a stick,, a knife, whatever you have on your person). But its trendy and oh so popular with the guys who carry a Sig 365 Macro with a light and a dot sight using an AIWB holster but have never taken any training and would be lucky to score Marksman in an IDPA match.

 

[dcmdon]

Sorry, I wasn’t clear with my comment. I was making the point that the Mass laws for guns in a vehicle not on your person (or “under your direct control” )
are the same as the Federal Laws that cover transporting personal firearms interstate for activities such as hunting or competition, i .e. Unloaded Firearms inside locked container (not trunk, not glove box, not console box) and ammo in separate locked container.

Not quite. Mass has laws that govern transport and storage. The requirements are different.
If you are in the car, you are governed by transport laws.

The transport laws are very different from FOPA.
1) Locked container only for large capacity RIFLES or shotguns.
2) No transport restrictions on an unloaded pistol
3) Loaded pistol must be "under your direct control". This is generally interpreted to mean on your body or within easy reach.
4) No transport restrictions on non-large capacity rifles and shotguns. You could drive your lever gun to the range with it across your lap. As long as it's unloaded.

The storage laws, which apply once you park the car and get out, allow the use of a firearm lock or a secure container. So similar to FOPA, with the addition that a lock meets the requirement. There is case law in MA that a locked glove box or center console DOES satisfy the "locked container"

Citations to relevant MA laws below.

Storage - applies when parked
https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Section131L

Transport - applies while in the vehicle
https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Section131C

 

[dcmdon]

Was this thread asking for your opinion about CCH? No? Then why are you giving it?

Back to the topic at hand, I have a coated magnet screwed into the console for my Sig 938 and a magazine. Obviously the console isn’t “secure” so buyer beware, I mostly use it for when I’m in the vehicle. My Sig barely fits so I question how much space there is within the center console safe. For a true lockbox I would look towards the single gun safes with a biometric lock that could be cable locked under the driver’s seat but still provide somewhat quick access.

What's a CCH?? Concealed carry HAMSTER??

You bring up another good point without intending to.

Ideally your box is going to be large enough to contain a HOLSTERED handgun. Practical firearms safety 102 suggests we all minimize administrative handling of loaded firearms especially in confined spaces.

The best way to remove your carry gun is to leave it in the holster and remove the holster.

 

[onewhippedpuppy]

What's a CCH?? Concealed carry HAMSTER??

You bring up another good point without intending to.

Ideally your box is going to be large enough to contain a HOLSTERED handgun. Practical firearms safety 102 suggests we all minimize administrative handling of loaded firearms especially in confined spaces.

The best way to remove your carry gun is to leave it in the holster and remove the holster.

Are you a comedian in real life? Because that was hilarious….

I do agree that outside of your gun safe, no handgun should ever be carried or stored without a holster that shrouds the trigger. Particularly in a center console or glovebox that could hold other items that could snag a trigger.

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