They’re Still Trying To Sell My 2022 Diesel Rubicon

[trilifter7]

I actually made the oppposite switch last month and traded in a 2022 F-250 crew cab long bed with the 7.3 Godzilla engine and 4.30 gears for my 2023 JTR. We use to pull a 40’ 5th wheel toy hauler with it but after my wife got her Bronco of 1.5 years waiting we enjoyed it so much this summer that I downsized the camper to a 20’ bumper pull so that I could make the Gladiator work. I’ve had the Gladiator for 3 weeks now and don’t regret it for a second! The toe alignment in my Gladiator was severely off when it rolled off the assembly line but after I corrected that it drives and tracks just as straight at 75mph as the F-250 did but has a smoother ride. I’ve owned 4 super duty’s from gas to diesel over the last 10 years and greatly enjoy my Glady over any of them so far! With that said it sounds like the super duty is a better fit for you and is a great truck, Enjoy!

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[Caraholic]

That two word response is the kind of lame response that men send me on Doublelist when I’m dating.

”Still interested?” They ask?

No! I’m not. You’re a man of too few words, and I don’t have any interest in extracting them at a rate of one word, or one sentence at a time.

Good luck in your search for better conversation.

Your welcome? Two more words lol

 

[guarnibl]

That’s a notable conversation too. My car insurance went down $40 a month with the F350.

And Las Vegas is one of the most expensive places in the country for vehicle insurance. My F350 is $190 a month. When I go to having two vehicles, say a Jeep and a BMW i3, my car insurance is $500 per month. Three vehicles is $600 per month (I tested that briefly), and so on.

I’m not Eliza Bezos or Elisa Musk.

Damn that’s more expensive than mine in southern Florida.

 

[Camaroboi13]

Okay, these “gangbanger” folks were “imaginary” when they visited my 55+ gated community in the middle of the night and tagged lots of things, cars, garages, sidewalks, etc.

I live in the high rent district too, and photos don’t lie…

Please don’t make the mistake of thinking gangbangers did this… this is a bunch of kids with nothing better to do.

 

[Cracked_Windshield]

Damn that’s more expensive than mine in southern Florida.

I’ve had two claims in the past year, so it’s unclear if that’s affecting my rates.

Before the Gladiator, I had a Scat Pack Challenger. Some 77-year-old moron moving out who rented a 26,000 pound Penske truck and didn’t take the insurance backed into the front end and ripped the bumper. Probably around $2,500 in damage including the rental car. State Farm wouldn’t pay because they said he was driving a commercial vehicle without a commercial license. He hit a bunch of other stuff too in the parking lot, and more on his way to California.

Then there was the windshield claim on the Gladiator. After the camera was recalibrated and the cost of the part, that was probably around $1,200.

So Allstate made little or nothing on me in the past year and is probably trying to get back in the black. I don’t believe in Santa Claus or “accident forgiveness.”

 

[Escape.idiocracy]

Thank you for the insight about the tires, but it still leaves me cringing at the the thought of “death wobble” occurring at 75 MPH. And, again, I’m not a fan of a loose steering wheeling at interstate speeds while passing a semi on a curve.

The fuel economy comparison isn’t holding up in real world driving. I’ve got around 700 miles on the F350 and I’m getting around 15 MPG in city driving in Vegas. The Gladiator was clocking around 23 MPH.

But, yeah, it was refreshing to actually walk into a Ford Dealership and be able to get an F350 diesel. They actually had four of them. And the 350 was only around $1,500 more than the 250, so to me that was a no-brainer.

The F350s hold their value really well, but I’m not deluded that I’m at least somewhat upside down right now. But no worse off than I was with the Gladiator. And I won’t be having panic attacks next time we roll for Missouri when spring comes.

Oh man- bad news. Death wobble isn’t a Jeep thing. It’s a solid front axle thing. You may need to transition your truck hunt to a Chevy…

I’ve had two claims in the past year, so it’s unclear if that’s affecting my rates.

Before the Gladiator, I had a Scat Pack Challenger. Some 77-year-old moron moving out who rented a 26,000 pound Penske truck and didn’t take the insurance backed into the front end and ripped the bumper. Probably around $2,500 in damage including the rental car. State Farm wouldn’t pay because they said he was driving a commercial vehicle without a commercial license. He hit a bunch of other stuff too in the parking lot, and more on his way to California.

Then there was the windshield claim on the Gladiator. After the camera was recalibrated and the cost of the part, that was probably around $1,200.

So Allstate made little or nothing on me in the past year and is probably trying to get back in the black. I don’t believe in Santa Claus or “accident forgiveness.”

You are paying roughly what I paid for insurance when I was in my early 20’s….
Can you get coverage with USAA???

 

[Cracked_Windshield]

Oh man- bad news. Death wobble isn’t a Jeep thing. It’s a solid front axle thing. You may need to transition your truck hunt to a Chevy…

You are paying roughly what I paid for insurance when I was in my early 20’s….
Can you get coverage with USAA???

USAA isn’t your friend, it’s a sham play to make money from those that served.

The winter of 2014 in Pittsburgh my spouse cut two tires and broke one rim on a 2013 Subaru Impreza hitting water-filled potholes.

The broken rim episode occurred at like 10 at night and the outside temperature was like 16-degrees. I called USAA to get the tire changed, unclear about how damaged the rim was? The call went nowhere and I changed the tire myself while dressed in dinner attire, heels, etc.

The next day, we drove it to a Suburu dealership and got a damage assessment. Cut tire, cracked rim. I paid nearly $500 to replace the items. Never filed a claim with USAA.

Fast forward to 2018. I buy a house in Florida and call USAA for homeowners insurance. They inform me that they don’t insure homes in Florida. So I’m like, “eff you,” and cancel my insurance. I then move to Allstate and discover that USAA charged me with an accident and had upped my rates for years merely because I made the phone call for the roadside assistance. I actually got charged with the accident for making the phone call.

The insurance industry says that hitting a pothole or object in the road is an accident, your fault. Not defensible In any situation.

So no more USAA for me. It took a long time and many phone calls to get my record cleared.

 

[Bjeepz]

I read not to touch the Colorado diesel. Something about having to remove the transmission at a certain mileage service point to replace a belt or timing chain. Sounded super stupid.

I didn't know about that fun time!

Anyway just supporting your Ford swap ;-) If I could I would swap to a 250 reg cab diesel right now. The Gladiator bed doesn't do what I need it to do.

 

[sharpsicle]

The insurance industry says that hitting a pothole or object in the road is an accident, your fault. Not defensible In any situation.

This is patently false. Hitting a pothole does not automatically make it an accident. Who told you this?

If the pothole incident made it to your record, there's more to this story about what calls were made/what was said/what was claimed. They don't just go "oh, call made for roadside service, must be an accident". That's not legal. Take it from someone who's family has been in the insurance business for over 5 decades.

I sympathize with your situations here, but it seems like over the course of your driving life you've been fed a bunch of BS. Between this, the Florida windshield claim raising rates (which is also codified as illegal in the state of Florida), the death wobble being a Jeep thing, and so on, it seems you've got some bad information you're using when making decisions.

Either that or the information you're choosing to share is being cherry-picked to make it sound worse. I doubt that's the case though, because the entirety of this thread from inception has screamed "I've got bad info, I've made bad decisions".

 

[Cracked_Windshield]

This is patently false. Hitting a pothole does not automatically make it an accident. Who told you this?

If the pothole incident made it to your record, there's more to this story about what calls were made/what was said/what was claimed. They don't just go "oh, call made for roadside service, must be an accident". That's not legal.

I sympathize with your situations here, but it seems like over the course of your driving life you've been fed a bunch of bs. Between this, the Florida windshield claim raising rates (which is also codified as illegal in the state of Florida), the death wobble being a Jeep thing, and so on, it seems you've got some bad information you're using when making decisions. Either that or the information you're choosing to share is being cherry-picked to make it sound worse.

Google is your friend and spiritual advisor. I can’t spend my entire day arguing with guys like you.

”Since hitting a pothole is considered a single-vehicle accident, your insurer will usually deem you at fault for the incident unless there's evidence that another vehicle caused you to hit the pothole.”

https://www.progressive.com/answers/does-car-insurance-cover-pothole-damage/

And quit rewriting my narrative to discredit me. The Jeep windshield got busted in Arizona while I was a Nevada resident.

 

[sharpsicle]

Google is your friend and spiritual advisor. I can’t spend my entire day arguing with guys like you.

”Since hitting a pothole is considered a single-vehicle accident, your insurer will usually deem you at fault for the incident unless there's evidence that another vehicle caused you to hit the pothole.”

https://www.progressive.com/answers/does-car-insurance-cover-pothole-damage/

Did you make a claim, or have a police report filed over it? If so, then yes. If not, the no. It is highly dependent on what you do. You said you never made a claim to insurance over hitting a pothole and never mentioned filing a report. If that's a lie, then no kidding it made it to your record.

You're clearly not telling the whole truth, or understanding the sequence of events that lead up to what you're quoting. I'm just pointing out the inaccuracies. Nice try though.

 

[Cracked_Windshield]

Did you make a claim, or have a police report filed over it? If so, then yes. If not, the no. It is highly dependent on what you do. You said you never made a claim to insurance over hitting a pothole and never mentioned filing a report. If that's a lie, then no kidding it made it to your record.

Nice try.

You’re like the dude yesterday with the gang stuff. You just keep changing your tune after I call you out on your BS.

Are we to believe that I just called USAA and said I need roadside assistance and hung up with no explanation as to why? I said my spouse hit a pothole. Get it? MY SPOUSE!

We’re done talking.

 

[sharpsicle]

You’re like the dude yesterday with the gang stuff. You just keep changing your tune after I call you out on your BS.

We’re done talking.

You: Makes clear statement.
Me: Explains what happens based on that statement.
You: Quotes a different situation than stated.
Me: Points out the difference.
You: Claims I'm changing my tune.

This has been your MO this whole time. Don't try to gaslight me. Enjoy your Ford.

 

[Cracked_Windshield]

For anyone else that’s tempted to intentionally get confused I’ll recap.

My spouse hit the pothole(s) in Pittsburgh, PA. I was a passenger and made the phone call. More funnily, I didn’t even have a drivers license at the time due to medical issues.

Because I made the phone call and reported what’s considered by the insurance industry as an accident, I was mistakenly charged with having that accident.

The house that USAA wouldn’t insure was in Florida. So I canceled the policy.

The Jeep windshield got broken in Arizona, I explained that in my windshield thread.

USAA removed the accident from my record after I confronted them and they did a big investigation, etc. Lexus Nexus sent me a letter afterwards.

I get it that I upset some folks they’re mad because of me creating this thread and sharing the story about my trade-in, but it’s no reason to keep manufacturing BS to attack me for it.

 

[sharpsicle]

We had a nickname in the military for guys like you, especially during training sessions or briefings. They referred to you folks as “sharpshooters.” It wasn’t a compliment.

Why are you being so aggressive? What we're doing here in the end is attempting to help by showing what is or is not accurate. Your response is extraordinarily defensive and you aren't taking the information well. I'm sorry for that, but that doesn't change what's being communicated.

Being from a military background, you should appreciate the fact that complete and accurate information is a requirement for sound decision making. If you don't give the whole picture in your comments, and then start making assumptions and sweeping statements, you're going to have exactly what you see here. People will be attempting to clarify and correct your statements because the underlying information is either incomplete or straight up wrong. That's not an attack on you in the least. It happens to all of us where we either don't have the whole picture, or were at some point given bad information that we took as fact. Sooner or later, someone comes along that explains the reality of it and you grow from that sharing of information.

Unfortunately you've been very closed off from learning from others here. You also go off an attack things with this information which is going to tick off other people. You say Vegas is a craphole, of course those in the area are going to argue about that. You say death wobble is a Jeep thing, of course those familiar with SFA vehicles are going to open your eyes on the reality of DW. You've tried to say a truck in need of repair is a reflection of the whole Jeep lineup. You've got some bad information here and are compounding it with bad assumptions. Don't take these corrections as invitations for attacks. Take them as learning experiences. If you don't admit that you might have bad information and poor assumptions driving your decision making process, you're gonna have a bad time.

I will admit that I've gotten aggressive back at you in response to your crap attitude in these posts. I apologize for that. But it doesn't make anything said by myself or anyone else here any less true. You can choose how you respond to this. If you choose to remain naïve and aggressive, I would suggest you part ways now before it gets worse.

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