Gladiator vs rivian

[chorky]

Jeep has a hybrid for their Wrangler. I am sure plenty of folks here have watched some real world off road reviews and trials. TrailRecon has a great one. The result was not good. It was ‘ok’ and cool in some respect. Mileage was terrible. At one point the batteries overheated (or maybe it was the motors) and they had to stop for a while. I think it did have regenerative braking which was neat. The coolest thing was batteries were under the rear seats which provided protection At the sacrifice of storage space.

Seeing the real world struggles it had, I doubt a fully electric vehicle would really do any good. Theyre really terrible for the environment. And super expensive too. About the only thing I like bout them currently is they are quiet.

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[Orange01z28]

Well here's trail mater recovering one.

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Rivian and Gladiator aren't even comparable besides the fact they both have pickup beds

 

[Orange01z28]

I sure wouldn’t mind my Gladiator going 0-60 in 3 seconds though?. These EVs are really starting to kick ass performance-wise.

Battery life expectancy concerns seem to be fake news. Expected battery life is 300K to 500K miles now for Teslas which equates to between 21-35 years of ownership . 400 miles per charge would really help alleviate the range anxiety concerns though.

We use our Gladiator still for long trips and the wife’s base Tesla Model 3 is our commuter as it gets max 200 miles per charge. But even the base model jumps off the line Iike no other ICE car I’ve owned.

But they're only off the line. They don't have the top end pull like an high HP gas engine

 

[Animal]

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Rivian and Gladiator aren't even comparable besides the fact they both have pickup beds

I have seen about a dozen of them on the road now in the Seattle/Snoqualmie area, but always ON the road. They seem like a cool vehicle, just not for me!

 

[Orange01z28]

I have seen about a dozen of them on the road now in the Seattle/Snoqualmie area, but always ON the road. They seem like a cool vehicle, just not for me!

They're pretty popular in my area of Phoenix as well

 

[Mojave2021]

But they're only off the line. They don't have the top end pull like an high HP gas engine

That may be true on some of the EVs but on a pickup truck top end speed isn’t exactly a huge need. There are several EVs that can hit 160mph or above now (Tesla Model S Plaid can even hit 200mph).

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[Lunentucker]

https://gizmodo.com/rivian-recall-1849639722

 

[Sandevino]

I’m personally holding out for Nuclear fuel reactors (light water type) to become mainstream before I get too far away from diesel.

 

[chorky]

I have seen about a dozen of them on the road now in the Seattle/Snoqualmie area, but always ON the road. They seem like a cool vehicle, just not for me!

i did see one going up the north fork of the snoqualmie while out there for surgery. It was struggling even on 12” potholes….. its a city truck. Not even remotely comparable to the gladiator.

 

[loudog3114]

Thought I'd chime in as I am waiting for the Gladiator that is replacing my Rivian to be delivered. It's a very, very capable truck (the rivian). I was most impressed by it in off-road mode at the second highest ride height. For typical beaten down old fire road type stuff and/or run down power line trails its the smoothest thing I've ever owned (landcruiser 100 gets 2nd, disco 2 gets third). Certainly more capable than anything made with an abs based traction control system and in the future as capable (through software updates) as a Rubicon JL (I say JL because it has a much shorter bed than the JTs, which I dragged everywhere) or sas bronco in stock form. Then on road, I have owned a JT and JL before and the Rivian drives much, much better. Its is incredibly smooth on road, piles and piles of power, has one pedal driving (not for everyone, but I love it), has a relatively advanced driver assist system for highway driving, and feels much closer to a car in handling than a big JL or JT. With that said, it suffers in one department; range. In decent weather its tolerable at around 275 miles @ 80mph, but in winter its way down, I get about 200 miles from 100% in all-purpose mode. That's the driving force bringing me back to a JT, but I am going to miss the Rivian in a lot of ways.

 

[dajudge]

Thought I'd chime in as I am waiting for the Gladiator that is replacing my Rivian to be delivered. It's a very, very capable truck (the rivian). I was most impressed by it in off-road mode at the second highest ride height. For typical beaten down old fire road type stuff and/or run down power line trails its the smoothest thing I've ever owned (landcruiser 100 gets 2nd, disco 2 gets third). Certainly more capable than anything made with an abs based traction control system and in the future as capable (through software updates) as a Rubicon JL (I say JL because it has a much shorter bed than the JTs, which I dragged everywhere) or sas bronco in stock form. Then on road, I have owned a JT and JL before and the Rivian drives much, much better. Its is incredibly smooth on road, piles and piles of power, has one pedal driving (not for everyone, but I love it), has a relatively advanced driver assist system for highway driving, and feels much closer to a car in handling than a big JL or JT. With that said, it suffers in one department; range. In decent weather its tolerable at around 275 miles @ 80mph, but in winter its way down, I get about 200 miles from 100% in all-purpose mode. That's the driving force bringing me back to a JT, but I am going to miss the Rivian in a lot of ways.

This is the real issue right now with electric vehicles. If you are into back country travel where there is no why to charge for days they aren't viable. You can't realistically carry an extra battery but you can carry 20 gallons easily.. It will be interesting to see if they can get the range way up.

 

[DirkG]

Thought I'd chime in as I am waiting for the Gladiator that is replacing my Rivian to be delivered. It's a very, very capable truck (the rivian). I was most impressed by it in off-road mode at the second highest ride height. For typical beaten down old fire road type stuff and/or run down power line trails its the smoothest thing I've ever owned (landcruiser 100 gets 2nd, disco 2 gets third). Certainly more capable than anything made with an abs based traction control system and in the future as capable (through software updates) as a Rubicon JL (I say JL because it has a much shorter bed than the JTs, which I dragged everywhere) or sas bronco in stock form. Then on road, I have owned a JT and JL before and the Rivian drives much, much better. Its is incredibly smooth on road, piles and piles of power, has one pedal driving (not for everyone, but I love it), has a relatively advanced driver assist system for highway driving, and feels much closer to a car in handling than a big JL or JT. With that said, it suffers in one department; range. In decent weather its tolerable at around 275 miles @ 80mph, but in winter its way down, I get about 200 miles from 100% in all-purpose mode. That's the driving force bringing me back to a JT, but I am going to miss the Rivian in a lot of ways.

Great insight from someone with real-world experience.

Considering Rivian is based here in Orange County (Irvine, CA), I'm rooting for them big-time. The company was founded in 2009 and in an incredibly short time, has become a viable entry in the EV/truck/SUV market.

As battery technology expands, so will the range...then, skies the limits for EVs...(but yes, I know EVs aren't for everyone).

 

[legacy_etu]

This is the real issue right now with electric vehicles. If you are into back country travel where there is no why to charge for days they aren't viable. You can't realistically carry an extra battery but you can carry 20 gallons easily.. It will be interesting to see if they can get the range way up.

What do you mean? It has infinite range . This is what the EV folks are doing now. Just need two strong guys to lift this sucker into the bed!

 

[loudog3114]

What do you mean? It has infinite range . This is what the EV folks are doing now. Just need two strong guys to lift this sucker into the bed!

You joke but I actually think the best EV implementation to date has been the bmw i3 with the range extender in the trunk. Great little commuter car, I might get one again if commuting in my JT gets old.

 

[fourfa]

Laugh if you want, but I have seen a YT test of charging (I think a Tesla Y) from a small portable genset that came out to around 15 mpg. On top of the battery range... it's almost viable

Personally I don't want to sleep listening to a generator all night. But they do seem to be getting quieter and quieter over the years...

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