Wow, the hate but nothing to back it.Okay whatever ya think bub ..you do know each one of those wind turbines takes many gallins of oil!!!??? And you did know they kill birds , do you think that applies to every state?? Scheduled??? Get real dude ! That is just Ludacris. I tell ya what you believe it your way and I will believe it my way . Have a great time with that hope it works out for ya
????What I don't understand is why it has to be all or nothing with EV's. Why not continue to develop more efficient hybrids?
That's why we own different cars: A Jeep TJ, a BMW i3, and an Acura MDX, each one serving a different purpose, just like airlines have different airplanes to serve different missions such as using a B747 to fly from JFK to London or a CRJ900 to fly from Austin to DFW. There is simply no single multi-purpose vehicle and thus the need for multiple cars in the garage: The TJ is for trails/summer fun, the BMW is for city DD missions, and the Acura is for long trips and cargo space.Bwahahaha what a load of Rubish !!! Not a tree hugger huh okay maybe your just in a place where you can charge one . Try living away from a big city or going overlanding, or Baja trekking .. Give me a break bub. Listen if you think 21 miles on full electric is good and going from a 3.6lt. To a 2.4lt. After the electric part is depleted your sadly confused. IT takes MORE burning of fossil fuels to produce the electric that charges the outrageously priced batteries. Than it does to just use the fossil fuel in the vehicle to begin with . It has literally crash California's electric grid. They are now asking people NOT to charge their electric vehicles..lol what a waste of money. I just read a story about some parents who bought their daughter a used electric car. Paid 11,000 for it had it for less than 6 months the battery went bad went to dealer theu said yep it is a bad battery . Total cost to replace 14,000 dollars. They can take those electric vehicles and shove em where the sun dont shine. PERIOD !!
I take it you've never heard of energy diversification? There's a lot of new and exciting things being developed for power grids, both in terms of energy generation and energy storage. There is no one solution, it's going to be a combination of a variety of technologies. Using a narrow snapshot in time of an emerging technology to claim it's total overall viability is just not how the real world works.No hate here but for things that commonsense will tell you are a farce it amazes me people cant see it I work in hydrocarbons and I know how much those things need to charge. And windmills aren't everywhere. It is not a viable option period. As I said before go for a long trip see how much charging you do. The trillions that WE all would have to pay to have a grid in place that would support such a venture is no feasible. To think that electricity makes itself with enormous amounts of fossil fuel is again ridiculous and lacks commonplace thinking.
I just paid $50k for my gladiator, my wifes model 3 can be bought for $45k. The range drops from 330 miles to 297 miles when its freezing outside. It practically drives itself at 80mph to the beach and does 0-60 in under 4 seconds. it has an 8 year 120k mile warranty."Cashing in" isn't what happens. You pay twice as much money for a car that can't be used when it is cold, causes you to spend 1.5 more times getting somewhere, and has no long term track record.
You make an interesting point. A lot of places don't have the infrastructure for EVs, so more hybrid options could be a potential solution.What I don't understand is why it has to be all or nothing with EV's. Why not continue to develop more efficient hybrids?
LOL.... that bad looking huh?I wish the credit applied to a Moke…I would love a vehicle I could drive around locally, park anywhere, not care that it had 2” of sand in the seats. Let any of my family borrow it and it’s so ugly I wouldn’t be able to tell if it got hit while parked at the cove.
Anyone with a big appetite ?I take it you've never heard of energy diversification? There's a lot of new and exciting things being developed for power grids, both in terms of energy generation and energy storage. There is no one solution, it's going to be a combination of a variety of technologies. Using a narrow snapshot in time of an emerging technology to claim it's total overall viability is just not how the real world works.
Like everything else, support networks for EVs will need to grow and develop over time. Guess which part of that cycle we're in now? Even when gas engines were introduced, there wasn't the support network we have today. It grew over time. No need to be a science denier or stand in the way of potential progress just because "muh hydrocarbons" and a perpetual fear of change.
EVs today still have a long way to go. I would not get an EV for long-haul trips or towing today. But you must start somewhere, and we've got a good starting point to continue with new innovations to improve. That also doesn't mean there isn't a good use case for them today, or that they won't improve in time to a point where I would get one. Just because I don't want one today does not mean I'll never want one. No point in being that close-minded.
And a new 1/2 ton is 80K; however our Jeeps and a full size truck don't compare to a Model 3. I compared it to a car that is comparable in size and usefulness.I just paid $50k for my gladiator, my wifes model 3 can be bought for $45k. The range drops from 330 miles to 297 miles when its freezing outside. It practically drives itself at 80mph to the beach and does 0-60 in under 4 seconds. it has an 8 year 120k mile warranty.
Everything you said sounds like crotchety scared hermit talk.