What can a Mojave on 35s NOT do?

[HooliganActual]

Even though your wife's stock on 33s can follow you just fine, you still got a 2.5" lift and 35s? Take your own advice and leave this money

Well I didn't say she goes on every wheeling run that my buddy and I go on...lol. She has passengered in my Wrangler many times on trails that were stupider than most

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[GladLad]

I've never had to use the lockers. I ride mostly forest roads and mining trails. Lockers generally start mattering in OHJV parks and on extreme trails. The same for the 4:1 transfer case. FWIW, I wanted a Mohave, but the wife wanted the Rubicon. Happy wife, happy life.

A wife that wants a Rubicon is a good one to keep happy. You probably don't even have to lie about how much that new accessory cost.

 

[Rburns1776]

Nice truck. Any reason you chose lift before tires? BLD, forgot about that.

I didn't know rubi discos tried to reconnect at speed. I see no immediate need so will be going manual route if ever needed for now.

Thanks for the info on weighted ride and no creaking.

Thanks. I did the lift first because 2 more inches doesn't hurt, it was relatively cheap, aesthetically it helped the overall look of the truck imho, and the factory 33" falkens are a solid all terrain tire, 3 peak rated, and work really well for my use cases so I don't have a need at the moment to change them, just a want haha

 

[Choatecav]

A Mohave on stock wheels will do incredible things.

I have been on and lead many 4 wheeler rides. There are always a couple of guys in stock vehicles. They have always gotten through. When I say stock, I mean a base wrangler, or an FJ. Once there was a 2004 Ford Explorer. The driver of the Explorer had to make a couple of banzai runs, but he got through.

I think the Red Rock club in Moab has the best rating system. They make specific suggestions about lift kits and tires sizes by trail. When reading the trail ratings, I believe that with a Mohave or a Rubicon, you can consider that you vehicle came with a 2" lift. I have been on trails rated as high as 5 with my Gladiator. We got through without much drama. Well, except for the steep sidehill/downhill section that made me squeal.

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I will admit to you all that on the "Weenie scale" I am at least a 7 or 8. I see your photos and read about these trips to Moab and handling a "5" rated trail, etc. but just haven't had the moxie to do it. Oh, I get off the pavement, but other than a little mud and occasional logging road, that is about it. Just don't want to damage my Mojave.
Question: Do most of you that do these type of trails have a considerable of body or undercarriage damage? It's hard for me to imagine not beating the truck up based on the videos and such.
thanks,

 

[Stormtroopin]

Wow! I thought that first pic was you stuck on 35s in frozen mud. Faired better than the Titanic with those big ice chunks.

No plans to go higher or bigger?

Wow! I thought that first pic was you stuck on 35s in frozen mud. Faired better than the Titanic with those big ice chunks.

No plans to go higher or bigger?

I did end up going with some BFG 37s a couple months ago only because my raptor buddy was going bigger and gave me a sweet deal on some lightly used BFG 37s.

 

[HooliganActual]

A wife that wants a Rubicon is a good one to keep happy. You probably don't even have to lie about how much that new accessory cost.

You know what the real problem is with this...when she gets mod hungry. My wife and I both have JKUR's (and a JTR). Any mod I do to the JTR or my JKUR "gets evaluated" and then she decides if she wants it for hers. It costs me twice as much and twice the work. Not to mention that the installs on her Wrangler are nicer than mine because I've already learned how not to do it!!

 

[CJ5w4wdSmokyOnMyTail]

Hey fellow SE MIer. Never heard of that trail, so that's pretty cool that you can overland all the way to Moab. I don't much about Moab, but was it a good one for your ride or have to skip a lot with the trailer? Not that you can't unhook for courses.

Was it worse than potholes?

I skipped nothing with the trailer. Although the trailer took a beating. The electrical harness was ripped off and gone by day 6. Red dust coated everything inside the trailer. The wheel tongue jack got jammed and bent, the propane tank was ripped off it's bolts, the water tank hose got cut up. I was constantly repairing something.

But the Mojave didn't even get scratched.

The roughest parts of the Trans America Trail hat I drove (we went from Tennessee to Moab on the trail) were in New Mexico and Colorado. Engineer's Pass in Colorado was tricky with the trailer- no room for error, can't turn around, etc.

The Park Ranger at Canyonlands National Park near Moab told us about an amazing wild camping spot outside the Park called Marlboro Point. He gave us the GPS coordinates. Marlboro Point was beyond beautiful - we were high up and surrounded by endless canyon views on three sides.

To be very honest, the great majority of the Trans America Trail is dirt roads, farm roads, and fire roads. Most four wheel drive vehicles can make it. But a few parts really need a Jeep or near-Jeep to make it through.

There is no better way to experience the US than the TAT. No cities. Almost no paved roads. Wild camping on BLM land. Just tiny towns and amazing wild and agricultural places.

If you can, plan a trip on the Trans America Trail. It will be a trip of a lifetime.

 

[GladLad]

I did end up going with some BFG 37s a couple months ago only because my raptor buddy was going bigger and gave me a sweet deal on some lightly used BFG 37s.

Stayed with the stock lift on 37s? I know people have, but I thought at that point you'd have some rubbing, at least when wheeling.

 

[CJ5w4wdSmokyOnMyTail]

Beat me to it. . . ?

But the Mojave CAN use the 4L at higher speeds and it has a stronger frame than any other JT variant.

 

[GladLad]

I skipped nothing with the trailer. Although the trailer took a beating. The electrical harness was ripped off and gone by day 6. Red dust coated everything inside the trailer. The wheel tongue jack got jammed and bent, the propane tank was ripped off it's bolts, the water tank hose got cut up. I was constantly repairing something.

But the Mojave didn't even get scratched.

The roughest parts of the Trans America Trail hat I drove (we went from Tennessee to Moab on the trail) were in New Mexico and Colorado. Engineer's Pass in Colorado was tricky with the trailer- no room for error, can't turn around, etc.

The Park Ranger at Canyonlands National Park near Moab told us about an amazing wild camping spot outside the Park called Marlboro Point. He gave us the GPS coordinates. Marlboro Point was beyond beautiful - we were high up and surrounded by endless canyon views on three sides.

To be very honest, the great majority of the Trans America Trail is dirt roads, farm roads, and fire roads. Most four wheel drive vehicles can make it. But a few parts really need a Jeep or near-Jeep to make it through.

There is no better way to experience the US than the TAT. No cities. Almost no paved roads. Wild camping on BLM land. Just tiny towns and amazing wild and agricultural places.

If you can, plan a trip on the Trans America Trail. It will be a trip of a lifetime.

That sounds amazing. Except for the beat up trailer. And it's an overland trailer, so built for that.

Can it be done in two weeks or is a retirement trip?

At Moab did you do the trails like Fins n Things, the various Hell names... because I worksheets expect trailers on those?

 

[GladLad]

But the Mojave CAN use the 4L at higher speeds and it has a stronger frame than any other JT variant.

And locker in 4h, right?

 

[CJ5w4wdSmokyOnMyTail]

That sounds amazing. Except for the beat up trailer. And it's an overland trailer, so built for that.

Can it be done in two weeks or is a retirement trip?

At Moab did you do the trails like Fins n Things, the various Hell names... because I worksheets expect trailers on those?

Thanks. The trailer was hand built by me and a local welder. All the stuff the welder did held up great. All the stuff that I did......needs some re-building!

To drive the whole trail from North Carolina to Oregon would take probably six weeks or so. TN to UT took about 2.5 weeks. You average about 25 miles an hour and dirt roads and trails are very indirect ways of getting places.

Two weeks is fine to do a stretch of the trail. Just highway to the place you want to start, then wheel for 10 days, then highway home.

We actually did very few trails in Moab. We had been four-wheeling for weeks by the time we arrived in Moab. Had done some tough trails in Colorado and stretches in other states along the way. By the time we made it to Moab, we only had two days before we had to hit the highway for the long drive back to Michigan.

The highlights for me were really the desolate places, the tiny towns, the endless prairies, the amazing views in the Ozarks and Rockies and even the long stretches of fields in Oklahoma. And the great camp spots we found along rivers and lakes and forests on the trail. The actual rock climbing was great fun, but a rare part of the trip.

 

[Jocww]

But the Mojave CAN use the 4L at higher speeds and it has a stronger frame than any other JT variant.

That’s why I got the diesel??

 

[GladLad]

Thanks. The trailer was hand built by me and a local welder. All the stuff the welder did held up great. All the stuff that I did......needs some re-building!

To drive the whole trail from North Carolina to Oregon would take probably six weeks or so. TN to UT took about 2.5 weeks. You average about 25 miles an hour and dirt roads and trails are very indirect ways of getting places.

Two weeks is fine to do a stretch of the trail. Just highway to the place you want to start, then wheel for 10 days, then highway home.

We actually did very few trails in Moab. We had been four-wheeling for weeks by the time we arrived in Moab. Had done some tough trails in Colorado and stretches in other states along the way. By the time we made it to Moab, we only had two days before we had to hit the highway for the long drive back to Michigan.

The highlights for me were really the desolate places, the tiny towns, the endless prairies, the amazing views in the Ozarks and Rockies and even the long stretches of fields in Oklahoma. And the great camp spots we found along rivers and lakes and forests on the trail. The actual rock climbing was great fun, but a rare part of the trip.

Guess there's no better repairman than having the engineer on hand.

Speaking of engineer, I checked out Engineer Pass. I see what you mean. Narrow road, big drops. A 360 truck and trailer cam would be nice there.

Thanks. Lots of options with that trail, would have to pick the good spots and highway the rest to fit within a vacation.

 

[Andy29847]

I will admit to you all that on the "Weenie scale" I am at least a 7 or 8. I see your photos and read about these trips to Moab and handling a "5" rated trail, etc. but just haven't had the moxie to do it. Oh, I get off the pavement, but other than a little mud and occasional logging road, that is about it. Just don't want to damage my Mojave.
Question: Do most of you that do these type of trails have a considerable of body or undercarriage damage? It's hard for me to imagine not beating the truck up based on the videos and such.
thanks,

Gravity never takes a day off.

You don't know your limit until you go past it.

Your Momma can't save you all the time.


I've been wheeling for 5 years. This is after a lifetime of motorcycle racing and riding, mostly off of paved roads. In Moab, you can run anything that is level 2 or 3 without damaging your Mohave or Rubicon (or most other wheelers) as long as you don't do something stupid. Colorado is the same. Damage generally comes from speed or falling.

I ridden tons of miles on the forest roads in East TN, Western NC, and Northern GA. That is a fabulous place to exercise your 4wd without risking your ride to work.

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