tysongladiator
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On my youtube channel, there are a few things I always so. One is constantly check your vehicle or issues. Especially when you come off the trail. And if you have issues, make sure you find out what the issue is before you start spending money replacing parts. Deleting a battery or changing to another type of setup doesn't solve problems. And auto start/stop isn't the problem.
Having said that, I know that when everyone in a JT or JL has electrical issues, the first thing they automatically revert to is change out the batteries because the batteries are bad. I've seen loose pins, damaged connectors, and damaged wires. And a lot of them are hard to trace and identify.
Here is some information gathered from a reputable offroad shop of the headaches that can be caused by a damaged connector:
We have a customers 2020 Jeep Gladiator that came in for an electrical issue. The vehicle would turn on traction control, turn off tire pressure monitoring system, turn of the stop start feature and a lot of other strange electrical issues.
As it turns out there was a plug in the passenger side wheel well that was damaged from a previous accident. This plug had 70 wires going to it. I know that because I wired every single one of them.
Why am I telling you about this? First of all I was shocked at how much the 2 piece wiring connector cost ($650) and how hard it was to find. None of the Jeep dealers had the part, it took us several weeks to get it from an aftermarket source. Second of all, the wiring on the newer vehicles is not the same as it was before. The new vehicles use whatās called Controller Area Network (CAN bus) itās a vehicle standard designed to allow microcontrollers and devices to communicate with each otherās applications without a host computer. Itās a messaged based protocol designed originally for multiplex electrical wiring within automobiles to save on copper, but it can also be used in many other contexts. For each device, the data in a frame is transmitted serially but in such a way that if more than one device transmits at the same time, the highest priority device can continue while the other devices back off. So in some ways itās simpler than the wiring in older vehicles because this system uses a lot less wiring but the microcontrollers and the associated software to run everything adds to the complexity.
Watch how you wire aftermarket items like lights, winches, stereo and whatever else you can think of adding. If youāre planing on adding a lot of accessories install a separate fuse box. Be careful how you unplug the factory wiring, donāt break the latches/ locks on the plastic connectors, itās very expensive to replace them and theyāre hard to find. Thereās been a lot of changes to wiring and computers and and as to how everything communicates in most vehicles starting with the 2007 model year.
Having said that, I know that when everyone in a JT or JL has electrical issues, the first thing they automatically revert to is change out the batteries because the batteries are bad. I've seen loose pins, damaged connectors, and damaged wires. And a lot of them are hard to trace and identify.
Here is some information gathered from a reputable offroad shop of the headaches that can be caused by a damaged connector:
We have a customers 2020 Jeep Gladiator that came in for an electrical issue. The vehicle would turn on traction control, turn off tire pressure monitoring system, turn of the stop start feature and a lot of other strange electrical issues.
As it turns out there was a plug in the passenger side wheel well that was damaged from a previous accident. This plug had 70 wires going to it. I know that because I wired every single one of them.
Why am I telling you about this? First of all I was shocked at how much the 2 piece wiring connector cost ($650) and how hard it was to find. None of the Jeep dealers had the part, it took us several weeks to get it from an aftermarket source. Second of all, the wiring on the newer vehicles is not the same as it was before. The new vehicles use whatās called Controller Area Network (CAN bus) itās a vehicle standard designed to allow microcontrollers and devices to communicate with each otherās applications without a host computer. Itās a messaged based protocol designed originally for multiplex electrical wiring within automobiles to save on copper, but it can also be used in many other contexts. For each device, the data in a frame is transmitted serially but in such a way that if more than one device transmits at the same time, the highest priority device can continue while the other devices back off. So in some ways itās simpler than the wiring in older vehicles because this system uses a lot less wiring but the microcontrollers and the associated software to run everything adds to the complexity.
Watch how you wire aftermarket items like lights, winches, stereo and whatever else you can think of adding. If youāre planing on adding a lot of accessories install a separate fuse box. Be careful how you unplug the factory wiring, donāt break the latches/ locks on the plastic connectors, itās very expensive to replace them and theyāre hard to find. Thereās been a lot of changes to wiring and computers and and as to how everything communicates in most vehicles starting with the 2007 model year.
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