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1960s - "Oil will be gone in 10 years. We need millions to fix it."
We increased MPG requirements, stretching our supply
1980s - "Acid rain will destroy all the crops in 10 years. We need billions to fix it."
We finally started getting pre-catalytic converter cars off the road, began requiring catalytic converters on trucks, implementing industry emissions controls...
1990s - "The Ozone layer will be destroyed in 10 years. We need billions to fix it."
We banned the chemicals causing o-zone depletion
2000s - "The glaciers will all melt in 10 years. We need billions to fix it."
They are melting, right now.
2010s - "The coast will be underwater in 10 years. We need billions to fix it."
Go to lowlying coastal areas at a high tide. parts of Miami flood monthly at high tides and king tides, drainage infrastructure doesn't work because the ocean is getting higher than the ground.
2020s - "Climate Change will kill us all in 10 years. We need trillions to fix it."
Currently we are looking at 250,000 premature deaths due to heat globally, not including drought, crop failure, flooding, or extreme weather. The US DoD is already working on strategies based on securing fresh water as the next strategic resource.
Next up: 2030's - "Aliens are here. We need zillions of dollars and a One World Government to protect you."
We did aliens already, no one cared.
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Go to lowlying coastal areas at a high tide. parts of Miami flood monthly at high tides and king tides, drainage infrastructure doesn't work because the ocean is getting higher than the ground.
how much water is needed to raise the ocean 1”?

People who don’t live on the coast have no idea that shorelines change.

In Westport, Wa, the lighthouse was built decades ago and it was about 400’ from the shore.

Now, you would think the lighthouse should be at water’s edge today if the oceans were rising.

It’s not. In fact, the lighthouse is over 1/4 mile from shore. With no artificial interference.

People just don’t understand how erosion and soil displacement works.
 

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And some people don't understand how temperature causes matter to expand and contract, multiply that across a planetary scale. even without glacial melt, warmer oceans take up more space.
This is like the guy saying "climate change isn't happening because it's snowy today". The last time the planet was this warm for an extended period was in mid-Pliocene epoch, around 3 million years ago.

Your lighthouse anecdote is not evidence.
 

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I’d find a way to lighten the JT by about a 1000lbs, there are engineering methods to continue to keep as much strength as possible.. this would lead to longer lifespan of nearly every driveline part.

I would also consider a forced induction v6 with ample cooling as people with JT’s want better cooling performance towing campers at high altitude.

lighter trucks would help hit EPA/goverment requirements, and give people longer lasting, more reliable jeeps.

Or scrap all the above and give us the 392.
 

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I think we've strayed from the topic at hand.
Always happens here.

Figure out how to stop it from dripping water on your leg when you open the door and the roof is wet.

Either reduce the price or add more power.
They must've added the drain channel after yours.
 

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For 2024 models: Why did FCA decide to put better axles and give 4.88 gearing options on a lighter weight vehicle that has low towing capacity i.e. the Wrangler And not give those options on the gladiator. It’s clear that FCA does not give a crap about gladiator owners.

  1. FCA decided to cheap out and not put the upgraded full float axles that the 2024 jeep wrangler is getting.
  2. Further, FCA decided that you can have 37 inch tires with an over priced AEV lift kit but no 4.88 gear options like the 2024 Jeep Wrangler gets with smaller 35” tires. So basically it will drive like crap on the road with the 8 speed transmission constantly downshifting on the slightest hills and it will never use 7th or 8th gear on the highway with 37” tall tires on the over priced AEV 2024 Gladiator Rubicon X.
  3. There are no other engine options just the piece of crap 3.6 that has been known as one of the most unreliable engines that FCA has ever made.
  4. FCA appears to be run by penny pinchers who do not care about Gladiator owners.
 

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I’d find a way to lighten the JT by about a 1000lbs, there are engineering methods to continue to keep as much strength as possible.. this would lead to longer lifespan of nearly every driveline part.

I would also consider a forced induction v6 with ample cooling as people with JT’s want better cooling performance towing campers at high altitude.

lighter trucks would help hit EPA/goverment requirements, and give people longer lasting, more reliable jeeps.

Or scrap all the above and give us the 392.
Yeah basically. Put it on a weight loss program to find gains
I was going to respond.. but nah it's just not worth it.

I know all about the science. I deal with it in my job every single day. Much of the science is flawed by poor scientific processes. Much of modern science isn't even 'science' as it doesn't follow the basic rules of scientific theory in the first place.

And my comment hits the mark perfectly. I was not going down the road to discuss why laws and policies are what they are. That is a debate on a topic we can't have here. But the simple fact is, these laws and policies are what restrict auto makers from doing what people want. Weather those laws and policies are right or wrong is not a topic of discussion and not the point of my post. The SOLE point of the post is there are restrictions placed on auto manufacturers because of these laws. Simple as that.

Now because I dont want to get banned like others in the past, I will not discuss what is right vs wrong. Have a nice day.
Try to have faith in the science. Like when you trust the plane will stay in the air and you trust the doc with your triple by-pass. Or your mothers cancer treatment. Or you take the next elevator to the top floor.

Verbatim.. it’s the same provable bankable science. It’s physics and chemistry and the relationship they have w the planet. Try to have some faith in it brother. Back to the topic..

Why does Jeep I6PHEV matter? It’s US cutting edge tech and IP. Like the iPhone and countless examples. Telling Jeep/all US companies to stop producing world leading cutting edge tech hurts us and everyone in the free world my friend.

…its the biggest free pass one can ever give to the bad guys. Push the USA backwards on tech etc. super bad stuff.

Jeeps PHEV tech is still formative, flawed etc, yet good enough to win sales races. it will develop if we support it. And that keeps your amazing, world leading country where it is.

I would buy it in a heart beat merely to do the utmost I could do to reduce my demands for HC’s(oil), and to support the tech advantage of mighty and free USA. Definitely in mine and everyone’s best interests.

Jeepcares give us the I6PHEV pls but don’t make us suffer some upscale, upmarket, tarted up glitz fest.

Asking for the leading tech delivered with an iron fist package that can take the knocks and was built to work. Pls maam’s n sir’s.
 

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Try to have faith in the science. Like when you trust the plane will stay in the air and you trust the doc with your triple by-pass. Or your mothers cancer treatment. Or you take the next elevator to the top floor.

Verbatim.. it’s the same provable bankable scienc
Well, I did trust my doctor. For brain surgery. And turned out there was a massive conspiracy that was true which resulted in the entire department of Swedish medical group being disbanded. Then, in 2022 I had to have a second brain surgery because the initial surgeon I trusted in, or rather the team, caused a major problem resulting in near death that funny enough wouldn't have known about until too late had I not pressured more than a dozen other doctors of a particular situation saying something is wrong when they all didn't care enough to truly dig into the situation itself to find the source problem. So...I have trust issues. Because if I didnt dig into things myself and press the issue and see countless doctors, I would probably be dead today. But I trusted those doctors.

While I do think there are knowledgable people out there that research some really awesome things, I do not subscribe to the scientism religion. There are more viewpoints than science being the end all be all answer when much of modern science has strayed far from its original development anyway. That is not saying all science is bad. But one has to think, ponder, wrestle with, whatever it is that is on the table being discussed and ask at the heart of it all, why. Just going along with 'because science' doesn't work when so much 'science' is being done with the wrong intentions.

Why is going backwards, or stalling, in tech a bad thing? I am not suggesting this be the case, but imagine for a moment if we all were transported back to an era before the Industrial Revolution and before massive use of rare earth metals and elements. Do you think if there was never any progress at all past that point that we would still be having these discussions today of the sky is falling? Probably not... The consensus among 'the scientists' typically is that the recent massive use of modern equipment is leading to world destruction. Thats also assuming one subscribes to the scientific theories of the age and origin of the earth in the first place - of which there are many. But, all of the things we have today are because of 'progress' from the past. So if there was never progress to begin with would we be in a 'dire' situation of today? Just to spur some thought.... If the quantum computers being tested today suddenly became standard tomorrow, what else might we find that is all kinds of bad due to 'science' and 'progress' of said computers due to their massive computing power? One thing is certain, if it were not for yesterday's progress, I would not be alive today - that I can promise you. So, be careful before someone automatically thinks that I am against all progress. But one must contemplate all things.

I am not saying your opinion is wrong. I am also not saying it is right. And the same can be said for my opinion. But isn't there a middle ground in there somewhere? A lot of the world problems we have today are due specifically because of progress of yesterday. But at the same token, a lot of really amazing breakthroughs we have today are due to the same progresses of yesterday.

Ultimately I think the question that needs to be asked - which is not being asked - is, how much destruction will be necessary to come up with enough progress to solve the problem that is of concern to so many. And will the resolution be worth, or in other words, overcome, the destruction needed to get there. By this I mean - all progress requires destruction of some type. Think about the development of new metals, or new composite materials. Look at lithium batteries for example. They are down right TERRIBLE for the environment. But...is the benefit they provide enough of an offset of the destruction needed to make and use them to result in a net benefit? And to add to that, include the amount of destruction pertaining to research (the 'progress') to get to the point of a useful lithium option. For this one can and should consider the entire lifetime carbon expenditure of a 1980's truck including the man hours for research, the carbon expenditure of those workers to and from their manufacturing plants, and R&D offices, etc...as compared to the same all inclusive consideration given to a lithium powered Tesla. If the answer is that the final item, whatever it be, DOES provide a net benefit despite the destruction to get there then that progress was 'worth the squeeze'. However, if it is not, then that progress did nothing but cause more destruction. And one must also consider the length of time those newly 'progressive' items must be used in order to make enough of a net benefit that it will offset the deficit of progressing toward the next newest cool thing. But...when does it end? Why is there this addiction to a constant need for continual never ending progress? And will that continual never ending progress result in our own demise when instead we could have lived 'like the amish' (not to throw shade) and had a simple life that never resulted in the destruction of today due to the progress of yesterday? Or will there come a time when humanity collectively says 'this is enough progress'.

At the end of the day, vehicle manufacturers still must adhere to various laws of the countries they do business in. Be it right or wrong, that's just how it is. And currently, that is one of the largest drivers of progress. That and the desires of consumers, who, without the next cool tech, any auto manufacturer might find itself without enough vehicle sales to continue sustaining it's business venture.

Things to ponder.
 

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You’re probably better off getting an AMW swap. Gonna cost you $30k+ but that’s probably what Jeep would charge us as an option anyway smh.

Edit:

That goes to anyone else saying give us a 392 as well (or even a 5.7L probably). The price difference between a 392 JLU Rubicon and the JLU Rubicon X is $31k. AMW swap is $35k.

Potentially a 4k difference between AMW and what would be a factory option from Jeep. However, at least AMW’s pricing is justified in the extra labor. Jeep just money grabs on market demand because rich folks and idiots pay dumb prices for these things.

Also, sorry to come across as rude. No ill-will towards the fellow forum members. I’m just annoyed with auto makers taking advantage of people with the ridiculous pricing. I’d pay AMW or some other smaller company a few extra thousand for a swap any day over an automaker up charging engine options/packages.
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no worries brother! I just wanted Jeep (is supposed to care) to know how we felt!
 

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Does Jeep care? Or they just trying to create the longest tread for brownie points?
 

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Most of these have been covered already:

Wireless Carplay
Bring back a diesel.
A touch more room between the front seats and the back seats.
I like the idea of "freedom panels" above the passenger row.
A way to keep the backup camera clean(er).
Clearer information from Jeep on what tires will/won't work on various models without lifts. As can be seen by the myriad of threads here and on other jeep forums, there remains a dearth of information from Jeep.
Default LED lights, with heaters that kick in on cold days.

One more thing; Separate the controls for the dash and interior lights.
 
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