Peace of mind at last! Replaced main battery with a premium H7/Group 94 battery

[Gezer]

Again I am old. So the posts on 94r would be opposite?
stock battery from passenger side has pos. on the left neg on the right. So 94r is pos. on the right or pas. on the left like stock. Thanks for clearring my confusion. I had my stop start battery done at my local place and they put a bigger battery in than stock. working fine. Enjoy the game.

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[kevman65]

Again I am old. So the posts on 94r would be opposite?
stock battery from passenger side has pos. on the left neg on the right. So 94r is pos. on the right or pas. on the left like stock. Thanks for clearring my confusion. I had my stop start battery done at my local place and they put a bigger battery in than stock. working fine. Enjoy the game.

Your JT came with an R battery and they should have replaced with an R battery.

Positive post is closer to firewall, negative is closer to radiator on a 3.6 gas.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Andy thanks for the heads up on the Walmart battery. The specs and price are the best I’ve seen.

I also need to get 2 batteries for my F-350 diesel this summer before my trip out West and these have the best specs and prices for that size as well. I can usually get 4 years about of a battery and change them at that point to avoid any issues if I’m out in the sticks.

Thanks again!

I'll second the Walmart battery as a possible.
Granted, things keep changing all the time, but the last Walmart battery I bought went into a 1936 F20 with electric starter (it was an experimental tractor) and a generator tacked on.
It sat a lot and I actually didn't take care of the battery like I should have. This meant a lot of sitting, and a lot of cranking to spin the thing up, not always getting fully charged and so on.
That cheap battery lasted me over 6 years.
If I could get that sort of life out of a battery today - I'd be totally happy.
I'd definitely consider Walmart - and when my lawn tractor battery fails, I'm going to Walmart.
Actually thinking of them if my Javelin battery dies in the near future - there's over 7 years on that one.

 

[Mr._Bill]

Again I am old. So the posts on 94r would be opposite?
stock battery from passenger side has pos. on the left neg on the right. So 94r is pos. on the right or pas. on the left like stock. Thanks for clearring my confusion. I had my stop start battery done at my local place and they put a bigger battery in than stock. working fine. Enjoy the game.

The R designation means the positive and negative posts are reversed from the standard battery configuration. The JT/JL are wired in a way that requires the R battery. The cables are fixed length and not long enough to switch around and use a standard configuration battery.

When your main battery needs replaced, a 94R AGM battery is the best option to install.

 

[Rodeo]

The battery tray is big enough for a 94R battery. If you have a 48R there is a spacer piece in the tray that can be removed.

yeah, it's crazy how large that battery tray is.. when I replaced mine, I thought there was NO way that thing will fit .

 

[Andy29847]

If it's like the circuit I saw a guy post plans for a while back, it goes inline with the ESS off switch in the dash and does the push for you - fakes a button press after the vehicle gets a big button start command.
His circuit waited a couple of seconds, it was a timer, faked a button press.
it's not anything else or more.
It's just something that remembers to press the button for you after each start.

Still would like to find those online plans again - it was a very very simple safe circuit design.

The SmartStopStart device installs under the dash on the left of the steering wheel, like a Tasar. BTW, it is no fun reaching into that spot to remove/replace the plugs. I think there are other ways to make the Jeep think you pushed the button. Some seem to install below the radio, inline with the stop/start switch.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I looked on Amazon at some of the devices that fit behind the center panel and install inline with the start stop switch. these are the devices where I read bad reviews. The SmartStopStart device installs under the dash on the left of the steering wheel, like a Tasar. BTW, it is no fun reaching into that spot to remove/replace the plugs.

Interesting.

Now I'm not suggesting this applies to you - but it sure does me -
Those connectors are far from fun when you are 67, overweight by about 25 pounds (that's what I tell my wife anyway) and have damaged hands, etc. from decades of labor and heavy/hard work.
My father (killed by sleeping driver at age 85) worked his hands so hard over the years that he kept breaking tendons in his hands - had had 2 or 3 repaired. Last time I visited before he was killed, he said "this one broke again, to #$% with it, I'm not bothering with it this time"
The way two of my fingers feel lately - I'm headed that direction and it will mean - "thank god for those extension cables!!!!!!!!"

One I was looking at doing research, and found a similar circuit plan online, was a timer - it started a countdown when there was a big-button start, and after xx seconds, sent the signal to the PCM just like you pressing the button would do. Seems there was a bit more to it, but I like to see how people do stuff like that often just for kicks even if I have no intent of using it, just because - I have this thing in me where I just can't ever learn enough, there's never enough knowledge, even if trivial.

 

[Andy29847]

Interesting.

Now I'm not suggesting this applies to you - but it sure does me -
Those connectors are far from fun when you are 67, overweight by about 25 pounds (that's what I tell my wife anyway) and have damaged hands, etc. from decades of labor and heavy/hard work.
My father (killed by sleeping driver at age 85) worked his hands so hard over the years that he kept breaking tendons in his hands - had had 2 or 3 repaired. Last time I visited before he was killed, he said "this one broke again, to #$% with it, I'm not bothering with it this time"
The way two of my fingers feel lately - I'm headed that direction and it will mean - "thank god for those extension cables!!!!!!!!"

One I was looking at doing research, and found a similar circuit plan online, was a timer - it started a countdown when there was a big-button start, and after xx seconds, sent the signal to the PCM just like you pressing the button would do. Seems there was a bit more to it, but I like to see how people do stuff like that often just for kicks even if I have no intent of using it, just because - I have this thing in me where I just can't ever learn enough, there's never enough knowledge, even if trivial.

I'm older and more overweight than you. That is NOT a good thing. The issue I have with learning new stuff is that I have to delete some old things to make room in my memory banks.

 

[Andy29847]

Like already said - 0 impact on warranty. My take is that it can't even be detected since it simply sits there and at the right time, does a "button press" for you. In other words, it won't be different than if you had pressed the button to disable ESS shortly after you started your Jeep.

you are making me think about switch function when I could be playing video games. It seems to me like there are multiple ways to accomplish the “turn off the stop start button” automatically. The timer method you are writing about would be a device inline with the switch. The Jeep defaults to on when it starts and the device “pushes the button” to turn stop/start off. I expect that some of the device reliability issues when using this method comes not from the device itself, but from variations of the Jeep starting/boot up procedure, possibly caused by the changing conditions of the components involved in the start.

The SmartStopStart device remembers the last condition of the stop/start button and makes a decision on any necessary action for the next start. In other words, you can set the stop/start button to “on” or “off” and that setting will repeat on all future starts until you change it again.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The issue I have with learning new stuff is that I have to delete some old things to make room in my memory banks.

Try being severe ADHD with a shorter memory cache, as I describe it. Most people can remember a phone number with area code and country number - me, the prefix and last 4 is my limit.
There's a lot to that deleting to make room for new.

I have a feeling things aren't as far apart as sometimes appear online.

 

[Andy29847]

Try being severe ADHD with a shorter memory cache, as I describe it. Most people can remember a phone number with area code and country number - me, the prefix and last 4 is my limit.
There's a lot to that deleting to make room for new.

I have a feeling things aren't as far apart as sometimes appear online.

ADHD? At least you are diagnosed. That phone number thing hit home with me. I was a telphone man for 42 years. I used to have hundreds of phone numbers stored for easy recall somewhere in my brain. Not anymore. I'm thinking the biggest difference between the 2 of us is I am better looking.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

ADHD? At least you are diagnosed. That phone number thing hit home with me. I was a telphone man for 42 years. I used to have hundreds of phone numbers stored for easy recall somewhere in my brain. Not anymore. I'm thinking the biggest difference between the 2 of us is I am better looking.

There is just plain no way to come back to that LoL
I'm thankful that my son didn't get every trait, poor guy.

 

[KevinC]

ADHD? At least you are diagnosed. That phone number thing hit home with me. I was a telphone man for 42 years. I used to have hundreds of phone numbers stored for easy recall somewhere in my brain. Not anymore. I'm thinking the biggest difference between the 2 of us is I am better looking.

I'm younger, stronger and better looking than all of you. Well, I'm also a legend on my own mind.

I installed the OG start stop eliminator in my new 2023 JTM after driving 3 years without one in my 2020 JTR, and pushing the button every time I cranked. I can honestly say it has felt like a relief somewhat driving my JT. Maybe it's the process of not worrying whether I pushed a button after driving a minute and coming up on a traffic light and then remembering.

I can remember my old phone number my family had from 1966-1980. Worthless information. I can't remember important stuff from last week.

 

[kevman65]

Oh man, went from a battery thread to full frontal Grampa bods.........

 

[Like-a-virgin]

The battery tray is big enough for a 94R battery. If you have a 48R there is a spacer piece in the tray that can be removed.

What the diff? I’m ignorant as to mechanics and electronics. Why get a bigger battery?

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