Stellantis Q2 2024 Sales Numbers: Jeep Gladiator

[Ruger_45]

some of the first gladiators had a computer snag and it took 2 years to fix. Prices still go up.

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[jwolfejt]

Honestly not sure what they expected - my wife's JT had a sticker of nearly $80k (thankfully we did not buy it for anywhere near that). $80k for a midsize truck is really steep and its not like Stellantis upped the quality or anything - they just kept jacking up prices... its not only JT - its the entire CDJR brand accross the board - dealers are so desperate they are calling me to ask if i am in the market for a new vehicle lol. Stellantis way overplayed their hand - killing the Hemi in itself lead to a huge backlash from fans - they need to get the message.

 

[jwolfejt]

Jeep could boost sales of the Gladiator by putting a new poweplant in it to be competitive with the new Tacoma. They should develope an even smaller displacement 4 cylinder turbo, at or below 1.5 liters to get around 23/24 mpg. It's what all of us jeepers want, a 5000 pound plus truck with a tiny 4 cylinder turbo motor.

If you buy a Jeep and your that concerned about fuel economy you are just buying the wrong type of vehicle - my 4runner easily got around the same mileage as a wrangler and they sell like hot cakes - not so sure that this is a fuel economy thing - but more along the outrageous pricing they are asking.

 

[JKenTex]

Jeep could boost sales of the Gladiator by putting a new poweplant in it to be competitive with the new Tacoma. They should develope an even smaller displacement 4 cylinder turbo, at or below 1.5 liters to get around 23/24 mpg. It's what all of us jeepers want, a 5000 pound plus truck with a tiny 4 cylinder turbo motor.

"I'm from the Government and I'm here to help" :D

Small engines have their place. Well built (properly built) larger motors can be economical and perform a lot better and do it with less stress and wear. The problem is it takes money to design and build a quality engine, that will last.

Making a smaller motor produce more power works, but not economically, and isn't for the long haul.

I've slow my roll on buying a Gladiator because the market is nuts right now and I'm taking my time finding what I want and what suits what I'll do with it. And best yet, prices have nose dived. So in the meantime I'm still driving my 20+ year old 6.0PSD Excursion and every single time I drive it, I know I'm going to miss the hell out of it. I've driven a few Gladiators and they're great, but it's apples and oranges. I'm not sure how I'll adjust to the small motor with a bunch of gears that'll burn as much as my beast, that has lightyears more power and is still a blast to drive.

I digress......As for power, I'm already planning ahead at repowering. When I think about the $$$, my wife would be justified having me institutionalized but I can see a JT being so much more, something Stelantis will never do; no manufacture will because of the cost driven by regulations, AKA, the first line of this post.

 

[JKenTex]

The Jeep isn't the problem,
the INTEREST RATES are.....

Interest isn't an issue (nor is trade) in my case, but there are legit reasons sales are what they are. ei. why I backed off and am taking my time now. On the other hand, they also seem hell bent on pushing financing and trades vs. worrying about getting a sale first. I'm not trading anything nor am I financing and they seem to be turned off by that.

One issue, dealers let people walk in and out the door and ignore follow up, just to keep in touch. I think dealers are also struggling with good people that understand follow up, and most important, respond to customers. (I've contacted a guy and their sales admin, about an offer. Nothing!)

That and product knowledge sucks, but when a young person is expected so sell 4 different product lines, it's hard to blame them for not knowing basic product knowledge. Like, Rubicon and Mojave aren't just "trim".

 

[piroman683]

leased my JT in October of 2019 (2020 model sport - non S) for $250/month with my trade in of $7k, purchased it out of the lease with a buyout price of 24k. Very happy i picked it up when I did

 

[piroman683]

leased my JT in October of 2019 (2020 model sport - non S) for $250/month with my trade in of $7k, purchased it out of the lease with a buyout price of 24k. Very happy i picked it up when I did

oh and I rolled in the Mopar 2in lift + wheels and tires into all of that (was an additional $5k)

 

[T-Rock]

I saw a YouTube video the other day talking about the Wrangler sales dropping 17% and voicing concerns that Stellantis is going to drop the Wrangler model. They are pushing the Recon forward, which is kinda a competitor to the Wrangler, so I wouldn't doubt it. Dropping the Cherokee and the Renegade were mistakes in my book and the way they are going with raising prices for the Jeep name, I wouldn't be very surprised if the whole line gets dropped in a few years. They are pricing themselves out of the market IMO.

 

[Badunit]

I've seen that site and I don't think they have accurate monthly figures. There are a lot of duplicates for the quarters since Stellantis stopped reporting monthly, e.g.,



The quarterly sums are fine but I think they're making up the monthly numbers.

Could be. Here are quarterly results (from summing the data). Similar looking chart, but smoother.

 

[Hootbro]

I saw a YouTube video the other day talking about the Wrangler sales dropping 17% and voicing concerns that Stellantis is going to drop the Wrangler model. They are pushing the Recon forward, which is kinda a competitor to the Wrangler, so I wouldn't doubt it. Dropping the Cherokee and the Renegade were mistakes in my book and the way they are going with raising prices for the Jeep name, I wouldn't be very surprised if the whole line gets dropped in a few years. They are pricing themselves out of the market IMO.

Part of the problem is that starting with 2024, Stellantis is only shipping 4XE model Wranglers to the 17 states that adopted California CARB emission regulations for on lot dealer stock. Any other ICE model Wrangler can be customer ordered in those states but not normal dealer stock unless the customer backs out of it.

 

[MudderNuker]

A stronger engine offering would certainly help. A detuned Hurricane producing at least 375lbs of torque and similar HP rating would be fantastic. I'm sure Jeep does not want to cannibalize RAM sales by offering the Hurricane, sadly.

 

[chorky]

Companies succeed and fail in all economies, which is why we don't take one guy's word for it. I mean, the NVIDIA CEO's personal net worth is up something like $70 billion this year. What does your formula spit out in that case?

I dont think this is a valid reason to judge the economy on, not even partly. Who knows if they are running the company into the ground to make banging profits. Sure thats not the case with NvIDIA but there are plenty of companies that have done that. Just as you say dont judge based off of one persons opinion or experience, judging based off of CEO's who we all know are, for the most part, greedy at the behalf of their workers, is not a great metric to use IMO.

 

[chorky]

2021: $95,500
2022: $88,400
2023: $84,900

You "earned" $300K in three years but due to inflation it was $268,800.

85K. ha! who makes that?! man in this little town of mine, I'm in the top 1% wage earner of the whole county, and I dont get anywhere close to 85K. 300K?? Man if I made that I would work 5 years and straight up quit, get a yacht and sail to the Bahamas. People at that level of income are so far out of reality of understanding what is happening in this country it isn't even funny. They make so much they have zero clue what it is actually like to spend 50% of their gross on housing. And my poor neighbor probably spends 85% of his income on his trailer house that is rotting away. Getting food stamps, free food from the bank, and he's still going without dinner a few nights a week. These 300K+ income earners need a bit of a reality check.

There was a time during COVID that wages were growing at a slower rate than inflation. That is no longer the case, no matter what your feelings are. Wage growth has exceeded the rate of inflation for more than a year.

It is absolutely still a thing. As a gov worker, I am effectively 20% (+/- a few) behind the curve due to years and years of a hold on COLA. gov workers are not the only ones in that boat. Being from California, you are probably in the top 10% of the nation wage earning wise. Kinda hard for someone at that level to really see and feel what happens at the lower levels.

 

[Hootbro]

This thread is lacking a "I was born the son of a sharecropper" story to round it out.

 

[Breadman]

I dont think this is a valid reason to judge the economy on, not even partly. Who knows if they are running the company into the ground to make banging profits. Sure thats not the case with NvIDIA but there are plenty of companies that have done that. Just as you say dont judge based off of one persons opinion or experience, judging based off of CEO's who we all know are, for the most part, greedy at the behalf of their workers, is not a great metric to use IMO.

Yes that's exactly the point. Each one is simply a single data point and to make generalizations for the entire economy based on either one is absurd.

It is absolutely still a thing. As a gov worker, I am effectively 20% (+/- a few) behind the curve due to years and years of a hold on COLA. gov workers are not the only ones in that boat. Being from California, you are probably in the top 10% of the nation wage earning wise. Kinda hard for someone at that level to really see and feel what happens at the lower levels.

It's unfortunate that government employees sometimes get caught in the middle of political games when it comes to their salaries. But no one is forcing you to stay at that job rather than getting that 20% elsewhere. Of course there may be benefits, such as pension, etc. that are an additional form of compensation you might not receive in the private sector and should also be taken into account.

California is a big and diverse place and there are large differences in average salaries and cost of living across the state. I don't think it's appropriate to generalize based on where someone lives. You're driving around in an above average cost vehicle. Does that preclude you from seeing anything? What about someone at 25th income percentile, surely they can't fathom what it's like for someone in the 5th percentile and thus would it be inappropriate for them to make comments on the hard data? People at the bottom get screwed whether the economy is great or not. And while some will try to use them every few years as an example to attack people or ideologies they don't like, we all know their rallying cry when anything is proposed to help. Being from Montana, you might know some of those people.

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