Diesel Tuners Indicted for smuggling...

[whysoserious]

Interesting read... not sure if this is old news.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/diese...3-million-in-emissions-defeat-devices-into-us

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[MRPRmojave]

Crazy, However we have a sports car and you can buy Cat deletes and tunes right off any performance website no questions asked. I feel like it should be an all or nothing outlaw on any emissions regulations

 

[Billyj7175]

I find it odd that most smog-related modifications come with the "For Off Road Use" disclaimer, yet it's never the consumer that they go after, when it's the consumer who actually commits the violation. My thoughts on that are because the consumer doesn't have a large pile of money; the companies do. Sorta of feels like it's more about a money-grab than actually trying to make the air cleaner doesn't it?

My Disclaimer: I don't feel the government should go after anybody until they adopt an EPA plan that actually works and not just line their pockets.

 

[BourbonRunner]

Crazy, However we have a sports car and you can buy Cat deletes and tunes right off any performance website no questions asked. I feel like it should be an all or nothing outlaw on any emissions regulations

Bureaucrats hate it when you flaunt their absurd regulations in their face. Especially when you make a profit doing it.

You can try but fighting city hall usually doesn't end well.

 

[1945gpw]

If they are really concerned about emissions and modifying a vehicle from its original certification given by the epa then they would be going after any modifications that would contribute to more emissions like say installing big tires and lift kits lol. Wouldn’t that be a significant factor contributing to emissions just in the increase of fuel usage alone. Or does that just not make as good of a head line.. It’s not like they approved using 38 or 40 inch tires with the reduced fuel mileage associated with it, how is that legal . How many more laws do people want so they can feel good

 

[TheSolarWizard]

If they are really concerned about emissions and modifying a vehicle from its original certification given by the epa then they would be going after any modifications that would contribute to more emissions like say installing big tires and lift kits lol. Wouldn’t that be a significant factor contributing to emissions just in the increase of fuel usage alone. Or does that just not make as good of a head line.. It’s not like they approved using 38 or 40 inch tires with the reduced fuel mileage associated with it, how is that legal . How many more laws do people want so they can feel good

Please dont give them any ideas

 

[1945gpw]

Please dont give them any ideas

Haha right

 

[CrazyCooter]

If they are really concerned about emissions and modifying a vehicle from its original certification given by the epa then they would be going after any modifications that would contribute to more emissions like say installing big tires and lift kits lol. Wouldn’t that be a significant factor contributing to emissions just in the increase of fuel usage alone. Or does that just not make as good of a head line.. It’s not like they approved using 38 or 40 inch tires with the reduced fuel mileage associated with it, how is that legal . How many more laws do people want so they can feel good

Aa I watch this whole thing unfold and the EPA is hammering these guys with felony raids, 7 figure fines, and jail time..........I just wonder what will happen in the future as the agency grows and they run out of diesel tuners and race shops?

I half expect them to come knocking on my door after retirement to bust me for doing gear swaps, lift kits, and tires over the past 25 years?

 

[Cansberry]

I find it odd that most smog-related modifications come with the "For Off Road Use" disclaimer, yet it's never the consumer that they go after, when it's the consumer who actually commits the violation. My thoughts on that are because the consumer doesn't have a large pile of money; the companies do. Sorta of feels like it's more about a money-grab than actually trying to make the air cleaner doesn't it?

My Disclaimer: I don't feel the government should go after anybody until they adopt an EPA plan that actually works and not just line their pockets.

I don’t think it's about money. It's easier, cheaper and more efficient to stop something at the source than to track down 100s or 1000s of customers and then penalize.

 

[Mr._Bill]

They will go after the individual buyers after they are done with all the suppliers. It won't be difficult, they are getting lists of buyers from each company.

 

[smlobx]

I'm in the process of flying back to the US after an off-road expedition in the Sahara Desert.

All the vehicles were highly modified diesel SUV's that had their emission stuff deleted. The vehicles were registered in France, Austria and Switzerland. The garages that help maintain them know that the primary use is off-road so they turn a blind eye when they do the inspections. One of the vehicles, a G Wagon, is actually serviced by the MB dealer.....

We need common sense regulation.

 

[WILDHOBO]

They will go after the individual buyers after they are done with all the suppliers. It won't be difficult, they are getting lists of buyers from each company.

Maybe people should stop doing diesel deletes then. It’s offensive to see trucks spewing out black smoke. I want everyone caught. Maybe that pisses someone off, but so be it. There’s a reason leaded gas isn’t legal anymore. Just stop. Is my gas gladiator less fuel efficient on 37’s, sure. But it’s not my primary vehicle, and its engine is stock with the exception of a different air filter. I drive an EV on a daily basis to compensate for driving my gladiator on weekends and on trails.

 

[Koolcarguy]

I find it odd that most smog-related modifications come with the "For Off Road Use" disclaimer, yet it's never the consumer that they go after, when it's the consumer who actually commits the violation. My thoughts on that are because the consumer doesn't have a large pile of money; the companies do. Sorta of feels like it's more about a money-grab than actually trying to make the air cleaner doesn't it?

My Disclaimer: I don't feel the government should go after anybody until they adopt an EPA plan that actually works and not just line their pockets.

100% Agree

 

[1945gpw]

Maybe people should stop doing diesel deletes then. It’s offensive to see trucks spewing out black smoke. I want everyone caught. Maybe that pisses someone off, but so be it. There’s a reason leaded gas isn’t legal anymore. Just stop. Is my gas gladiator less fuel efficient on 37’s, sure. But it’s not my primary vehicle, and its engine is stock with the exception of a different air filter. I drive an EV on a daily basis to compensate for driving my gladiator on weekends and on trails.

So it’s okay that your gas gladiator doesn’t meet the requirements the EPA set for it just because it’s not your daily, it’s ok that it uses more fuel and isn’t as efficient because it’s yours and it just uses gas? Ok I’m seeing your logic now… Also you purchased an EV to compensate for driving your gladiator. Do you not understand how much pollution is created to produce your “clean” battery. Just because you don’t see the pollution in your city doesn’t mean its not being created. All the massive diesel machinery required to get the many materials out of the ground, transporting it to the processing and manufacturing centers which also cause massive amounts of prolusion just refining the materials, then transporting it all across the ocean is producing more emissions than your saving. Not to mention when the batteries catch on fire and cant be extinguished from the massive amount of heat. Or after the useful life of the battery is up how is disposing it good for the environment with all the toxic materials, then having to purchase another battery if you are planning to keep the same car that is…. It may piss you off but I think it’s offensive how naïve people are regarding their EVs and how “clean" they are, or how they are saving the environment bs.
Also you statement is incorrect that leaded gas isn't legal anymore but not sure what your point was with that.

 

[Scottz]

Maybe people should stop doing diesel deletes then. It’s offensive to see trucks spewing out black smoke. I want everyone caught. Maybe that pisses someone off, but so be it. There’s a reason leaded gas isn’t legal anymore. Just stop. Is my gas gladiator less fuel efficient on 37’s, sure. But it’s not my primary vehicle, and its engine is stock with the exception of a different air filter. I drive an EV on a daily basis to compensate for driving my gladiator on weekends and on trails.

Don't hurt your arm patting yourself on the back.

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