Just got quoted $3700 for 4.88 regear. Getting my chain yanked?

[CrazyCooter]

the axles come with lockers. They have portal axles that are very pricey at $29,990! But all have multiple options built in as you choose and request.

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[Minty JL]

Looks like some people are getting ripped off on gear changes. Materials cost everyone about the same. The labor time required is about 10 hours plus or minus just for the gear changes. I don't see where $4000 plus is a reasonable cost for the work. So it depends on one's pain level I guess when deciding to do it or not.

I was quoted $3700 as well up here.

The shops hourly rate is $175hr x 10 = $1750, plus parts and fuckin taxes.

I also want to do the eLocker while they're in there AND have them completely truss the front axle & C's

 

[OldButStillJeeping]

Rebel Offroad in California and Texas…..

That is a REALLY good price! I couldn't find that price 15 years ago. It was $2,000 an axle back then, and that was labor only.

I am guessing that Rebel / Revolution has their regear method down to a science with experienced axle jockeys that are fast and efficient.

 

[OldButStillJeeping]

What I have found in the past is that your basic offroad shop likes to do lift kits, bumpers, lights, wheels and tires. Stickers, winches and air compressors. Those things that are accessories. But regearing is labor intensive, and the shop doesn't profit as much, and it brings more warranty issues if they mess it up. So, they price it up to make you go elsewhere.

You can pay a mechanically inclined young person minimum wages, to install lift kits and bumpers. Teach him how to use the tire machines. Easy peezy.

But a regear takes experience and accuracy.

I did my own regears, but the last one I did was on my TJ in about 2010. In my 60's now so I would rather pay a good shop to regear my JT than do it myself. When the time comes.

 

[professorkx]

When I setup 5.38 gears on my sons Gladiator, the front was simple, great pattern and backlash in spec the first time. Getting the pinion set to correct torque was the only issue.

However, the rear took Four tries, as the spec called for 3/1000 backlash, which seems too tight, but that was the spec we had. Got it to 5/1000 and called it good. No noise and been going strong. Most of the time, specs are 6-10/1000.

$3700 including parts seems like a good price, but then again because you never know when you get one that’s difficult to get in spec with shims. I setup gears for free labor on all of our rigs…maybe I need to raise my labor price…

 

[Figmo]

If a shop can’t regear both axles in a day, go somewhere else.

They’re telling you “we don’t know what to expect so we covering our ass”.

You want someone who already knows “what to expect”

 

[professorkx]

If a shop can’t regear both axles in a day, go somewhere else.

They’re telling you “we don’t know what to expect so we covering our ass”.

You want someone who already knows “what to expect”

I can normally get spec on the first try, but if not, everything has to come out and you start measuring shims, so there is an element of unknown…

 

[OldButStillJeeping]

I can normally get spec on the first try, but if not, everything has to come out and you start measuring shims, so there is an element of unknown…

Yep. Preload, shims on the pinion, pinion torque, shims on the carrier. Backlash, test, refit, test it again. It's not hard it's just time consuming.

 

[RK Racing]

“””””””””That is a REALLY good price! I couldn't find that price 15 years ago. It was $2,000 an axle back then, and that was labor only.””””””””

I am guessing that Rebel / Revolution has their regear method down to a science with experienced axle jockeys that are fast and efficient.
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I believe it’s a crazy good price. I had a local hard-core 4 x 4 shop do my wife’s wrangler a year ago for $3000. I just had my gladiator done by Rebel last week for $1799 with 5.38’s.

 

[RK Racing]

When I setup 5.38 gears on my sons Gladiator, the front was simple, great pattern and backlash in spec the first time. Getting the pinion set to correct torque was the only issue.

However, the rear took Four tries, as the spec called for 3/1000 backlash, which seems too tight, but that was the spec we had. Got it to 5/1000 and called it good. No noise and been going strong. Most of the time, specs are 6-10/1000.

$3700 including parts seems like a good price, but then again because you never know when you get one that’s difficult to get in spec with shims. I setup gears for free labor on all of our rigs…maybe I need to raise my labor price…

It is .003 and .005 and………………..for reference somebody with normal hair, each hair is .002 and if they have thick hair it is .003 (for reference). So a couple of hairs thick is what you’re looking at for gear play or backlash.

 

[Lost1wing]

I was quoted $3700 as well up here.

The shops hourly rate is $175hr x 10 = $1750, plus parts and fuckin taxes.

I also want to do the eLocker while they're in there AND have them completely truss the front axle & C's

When I saw the taxes, I was shocked. 2016 NC started charging tax on labor.

 

[Minty JL]

When I saw the taxes, I was shocked. 2016 NC started charging tax on labor.

Fuck Maryland taxes is on rain water

 

[Lost1wing]

Fuck Maryland taxes is on rain water

I have heard that! A few big corporations have bailed the state of Maryland, moving to Texas.

 

[Minty JL]

I have heard that! A few big corporations have bailed the state of Maryland, moving to Texas.

Yeah there is a certain party for the last 30 years that has driven Billions and billions out of the economy annually........a lot shifting to Delaware for tax reasons alone.

Only thing that makes MD livable is the fact I'm retired MIL and 100% disabled with the VA and there are some nice benefits. Once the kids are out of school I'll be looking to move back to either ME/NH or to WV

 

[Panthers65]

I did my own regears, but the last one I did was on my TJ in about 2010. In my 60's now so I would rather pay a good shop to regear my JT than do it myself. When the time comes.

I'm with you. Worked at a jeep shop all through college where I learned to regear. Had lits and all the nice stuff. got out of Jeeps for 20 years, then bought my gladiator. Put 37's under it and was pulling a boat so regeared to 5.13s. Tried to do gears on a set of quickjacks, and I was miserable. Did the rear one day and the front the next. By day 3 my entire body hurt. Don't realize how hard it is getting up and down off a concrete garage floor 100 times a day and trying to hold a ring gear and eLocker above your face while laying on your back.

Either I buy a Lift, I pull the axles out of the vehicle, or that's the last regear you'll ever see me do.

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