Clayton Overland Plus vs Metalcloak Gamechanger - with towing

[Chance575]

Evo 4.5 overland on my 21 diesel does just fine towing 5000 lbs

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[djthumper]

lol NO idea yet on tires/wheels as trying to solve lift first. We use as a daily driver and do trails locally and have gone to AZ/CO/UT/CA for events/rides so far.

Purpose of a lift is to allow for bigger tires.

Purpose of bigger tires is to move your diff higher off the ground, allowing for more clearance.

The first question we ask, when talking with customers about their lift needs is tire size. Say, for instance you wanted to just go 35's and maintain a comfortable ride, you could do that with a stock lift.

Give our team a call at 916-225-2680 and they can talk to you about the possibilities for your rig - what you need, don't need, so that you are not just spending money for the heck of it.

- Matson

Matson, this is exactly how I decided mine.

I know people with a Rubicon that placed 35s on first to see if what they did really needed to have a lift for and what height to go with.

 

[lildev1972]

If you can, try to think of it as an entire package / mod - tires, wheels, lift, steering, etc.. They really do all work together. Even if you don't do it ALL at once, thinking through all the options and how they will affect each other will keep you from backtracking and changing out things in the long run. Good luck!

PS - Clayton Overland 2.5 w/ Method 703's and Toyo Open Country 35x11.5's here.

SORRY I meant we want 37s but have NOT decided yet on Wheel Type or Tire brand....

 

[lildev1972]

Evo 4.5 overland on my 21 diesel does just fine towing 5000 lbs

any gearing changes?

 

[lildev1972]

Matson, this is exactly how I decided mine.

I know people with a Rubicon that placed 35s on first to see if what they did really needed to have a lift for and what height to go with.

SORRY I meant we want 37s but have NOT decided yet on Wheel Type or Tire brand....

 

[lildev1972]

Purpose of a lift is to allow for bigger tires.

Purpose of bigger tires is to move your diff higher off the ground, allowing for more clearance.

The first question we ask, when talking with customers about their lift needs is tire size. Say, for instance you wanted to just go 35's and maintain a comfortable ride, you could do that with a stock lift.

Give our team a call at 916-631-8071 and they can talk to you about the possibilities for your rig - what you need, don't need, so that you are not just spending money for the heck of it.

- Matson

SORRY I meant we want 37s but have NOT decided yet on Wheel Type or Tire brand....
Thanks I will give them a call.

 

[Okie Gladiator]

Hi
I have a 2023 Rubicon JT as a daily driver. We are into rock crawling and need a lift. We use the JT as a daily driver and would like it to ride nice on the road. We have an RSI Smart Cap on it with an Awning, so about 260lbs on the bed. We also tow a 3500lbs jet ski trailer and a bed full of gear to the lake, so want the lift to be able to handle these scenarios best

Here is a pic of my 2022 Rubicon with 3.5 inch dual rate springs from Metalcloak. The travel trailer in pic is around 3200 lbs and I have another 400 lbs of stuff on the bed in that pic.

Rides good. Didn’t squat it bad.

 

[Clayton Off Road]

lol great color and nice set up...... wonder if the clayton heavy duty springs would be helpful vs air bags?

Normal JT springs can handle about 300-400 lbs of weight from accessories before sitting below level, HD spring about 500-600!

 

[lildev1972]

Normal JT springs can handle about 300-400 lbs of weight from accessories before sitting below level, HD spring about 500-600!

Ok.... so if a topper and awning are about 250lbs daily..... BUT for trips and fun you add another 250lbs plus tow 3k lbs.... which springs would you suggest? IF HD, how do those ride when only 250lbs daily driving?

 

[Clayton Off Road]

Ok.... so if a topper and awning are about 250lbs daily..... BUT for trips and fun you add another 250lbs plus tow 3k lbs.... which springs would you suggest? IF HD, how do those ride when only 250lbs daily driving?

With that setup you would most likely be sitting around level when loaded up on the standard springs, but the HD springs would be good if you were looking to maintain some rake. We rode around on the HDs on our completely unloaded JT for a few months and while I wouldn't recommend it for no reason of course, it really isn't too bad, it just feels a lot more controlled, especially around turns.

 

[lildev1972]

With that setup you would most likely be sitting around level when loaded up on the standard springs, but the HD springs would be good if you were looking to maintain some rake. We rode around on the HDs on our completely unloaded JT for a few months and while I wouldn't recommend it for no reason of course, it really isn't too bad, it just feels a lot more controlled, especially around turns.

So with only 250lbs daily and 500lbs + towing for trips...... Both springs will work and be fine, BUT HD will offer some rake and the standard ones will be more level when loaded up?

 

[Clayton Off Road]

So with only 250lbs daily and 500lbs + towing for trips...... Both springs will work and be fine, BUT HD will offer some rake and the standard ones will be more level when loaded up?

Yes!

 

[GypsyMech]

21 Mojave with topper. Running Clayton 2.5 overland with HD rear springs, Pintler rims for the offset, 4.85 gears to fix Jeeps crappy gear ratio, Falken 35's, works for the Arizona trails I run. I've never heard bad about metal cloak, but as previously stated, you need to look at total picture. My build started off by replacing keeps crappy clutch and seriously high ratio gears, continued to accommodate heavy overland load. The larger tires and springs give a comfortable highway ride, haven't altered the shocks yet.

 

[lildev1972]

21 Mojave with topper. Running Clayton 2.5 overland with HD rear springs, Pintler rims for the offset, 4.85 gears to fix Jeeps crappy gear ratio, Falken 35's, works for the Arizona trails I run. I've never heard bad about metal cloak, but as previously stated, you need to look at total picture. My build started off by replacing keeps crappy clutch and seriously high ratio gears, continued to accommodate heavy overland load. The larger tires and springs give a comfortable highway ride, haven't altered the shocks yet.

Why did you go with HD springs, do you carry a lot of weight? Do you sit level or little rake?

 

[GypsyMech]

It carries weight, including a rear winch, I still intend to add a tent. The lift and tires made huge difference on clearance, serving pic wasn't possible with stock vehicle no topper.

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