392 Gladiator V8 Hemi confirmed by Jeep CEO!

[cc1999]

I am going way out on limb here and post something I saw that is, wait for it, wait for it.
Almost related to the topic of this thread. LOL

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[Stan H]

I am going way out on limb here and post something I saw that is, wait for it, wait for it.
Almost related to the topic of this thread. LOL

Its a V8 so yes its good.

 

[ChrisNLA]

I am going way out on limb here and post something I saw that is, wait for it, wait for it.
Almost related to the topic of this thread. LOL

Whoa buddy this is where we talk about the price of rice in China, not Hemi's in Gladiators.

 

[cc1999]

If there is multiple companies that have been Hemi swapping the Gladiator for years.
Apparently with any hemi you want.

Why is going to take over year and half for Jeep to get it done and on the market?
Especially with the Wrangler already having done most of the groundwork with the 392 Wrangler.

2027 seems like a long time to make something like this happen.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

If there is multiple companies that have been Hemi swapping the Gladiator for year.
Apparently with any hemi you want.

Why is going to take over year and half for Jeep to get it done and on the market?
Especially with the Wrangler already having done most of the groundwork with the 392 Wrangler.

2027 seems like a long time to make something like this happen.

Oh, if it was really that simple. If that's all there was to it, if politics and fines and the NHTSA and other factors never entered into it. (can you license that hemi-swapped Gladiator in California?)

 

[cc1999]

Oh, if it was really that simple. If that's all there was to it, if politics and fines and the NHTSA and other factors never entered into it. (can you license that hemi-swapped Gladiator in California?)

Oh, I am aware there is a lot of regulatory hoops and hurdles they have to jump through.
Which they showed just how fast they can jump through those hoops when it took what 6 months to get a Hemi back into the RAM.

As far as Cali goes, I am not in Cali nor care past what the libtards out there do and how it can and at times effect what I can have or do here in the heartland, in those cases it just pisses me off. LOL
Which I was thinking I had read where the EPA had started putting a stop to some of that way overreaching CARB crap that somehow effects the rest of the country.
I better stop now, the whole CARB subject tends to get me wound up. LOL

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Which they showed just how fast they can jump through those hoops when it took what 6 months to get a Hemi back into the RAM.

Again, very different - "back into" is perhaps a key phrase.
It was worth the effort, and possible future fines for a full-sized truck. They are used to tow and haul, there's a big demand for a truck that can tow 10,000 pounds.

There's also the small, inconsequential bit about the Gladiator and HEAT SHEDDING.
They struggled to get the tow rating they did with a 3.6
Who cares in a JLU - do you tow 7,000 pounds in a Wrangler? No, so there's not going to be an "overheating while towing" bit.
But pack that V8 into a JT and now you have to deal with the extra BTUs of heat - how are you going to get rid of it? You won't.
So that's another reason for no V8 in the JT at this time -
No one tows 7,000+ pounds with a Wrangler - you don't need to worry about heat.
We want to tow 7,000 pounds with a Gladiator......... won't work, can't get rid of the heat.
That's probably the biggest reason we aren't seeing it - it works fine in a Wrangler, but it just won't do in a Gladiator.

 

[ChrisNLA]

Again, very different - "back into" is perhaps a key phrase.
It was worth the effort, and possible future fines for a full-sized truck. They are used to tow and haul, there's a big demand for a truck that can tow 10,000 pounds.

There's also the small, inconsequential bit about the Gladiator and HEAT SHEDDING.
They struggled to get the tow rating they did with a 3.6
Who cares in a JLU - do you tow 7,000 pounds in a Wrangler? No, so there's not going to be an "overheating while towing" bit.
But pack that V8 into a JT and now you have to deal with the extra BTUs of heat - how are you going to get rid of it? You won't.
So that's another reason for no V8 in the JT at this time -
No one tows 7,000+ pounds with a Wrangler - you don't need to worry about heat.
We want to tow 7,000 pounds with a Gladiator......... won't work, can't get rid of the heat.
That's probably the biggest reason we aren't seeing it - it works fine in a Wrangler, but it just won't do in a Gladiator.

....unless you sell the Hemi with a ridiculously low towing capacity in the Gladiator, and then folks wouldn't buy it because of that

 

[cc1999]

Again, very different - "back into" is perhaps a key phrase.
It was worth the effort, and possible future fines for a full-sized truck. They are used to tow and haul, there's a big demand for a truck that can tow 10,000 pounds.

There's also the small, inconsequential bit about the Gladiator and HEAT SHEDDING.
They struggled to get the tow rating they did with a 3.6
Who cares in a JLU - do you tow 7,000 pounds in a Wrangler? No, so there's not going to be an "overheating while towing" bit.
But pack that V8 into a JT and now you have to deal with the extra BTUs of heat - how are you going to get rid of it? You won't.
So that's another reason for no V8 in the JT at this time -
No one tows 7,000+ pounds with a Wrangler - you don't need to worry about heat.
We want to tow 7,000 pounds with a Gladiator......... won't work, can't get rid of the heat.
That's probably the biggest reason we aren't seeing it - it works fine in a Wrangler, but it just won't do in a Gladiator.

I suppose they could and maybe should rate it a bit more conservatively then 7k.
I know I would not want to tow 7K with a mid-size trucks regardless what motor is in it.
5K is probably more than max that I would ever want behind a mid-size truck.

My Ranger Raptors are mid sizers with plenty of power to tow 7K+ weight, but they are only rated to tow 5K, and honestly, I rarely tow anything with them at all.

I have my HDs diesels for towing.

The tow rating of a 392 Gladiator would not really ever come into play for potential customers like myself.

My mid-size trucks are mostly my daily runabout vehicles.
Perfect sized for still getting some light work done, and easy to park and fit into tight spaces when venturing into the city or occasionally an offroad trail.

I really never do any sort of heavy towing with my Mid-sizers. I do use the beds for hauling stuff.

 

[cc1999]

....unless you sell the Hemi with a ridiculously low towing capacity in the Gladiator, and then folks wouldn't buy it because of that

Tow rating on smaller tuck like this would really make very little sales difference.
I really do not see tow ratings on trucks like this really mattering to a lot of people.
There is a lot of trucks sold in this country that never tow anything.

 

[ChrisNLA]

Tow rating on smaller tuck like this would really make very little sales difference.
I really do not see tow ratings on truck like this really mattering to a lot of people.
There is a lot of trucks sold in this country that never tow anything.

In all seriousness I can't say one way or another how many people it would matter to.

I know the base tow capacity of 4500 pounds would not have been enough for me personally.

Ironically, it's irrelevant to me that the roof or doors come off

But, some folks have enough disposable income to buy a Gladiator as a toy and/or do not haul anything more than a gallon of milk - neither category I fit in.

At the end of the day, Jeep probably would not try to market a Hemi Gladiator that would likely fall a ton or more short on towing capacity compared to other midsize trucks. The fact that most people don't do anything but haul their own ego around in 3/4 ton trucks doesn't stop them from celebrating the fact that they could drag the Space Shuttle to the top of Pikes Peak with it if they were called upon The towing battle drags on in the midsize world, even if unecessary.

 

[JTGuy]

I have a 25 ft TT that weighs 6K empty. I would not want to tow it with my JT ever. I tow it with my Ram diesel 2500. Wind and traffic will not be fun with the JT.

 

[ChrisNLA]

I have a 25 ft TT that weighs 6K empty. I would not want to tow it with my JT ever. I tow it with my Ram diesel 2500. Wind and traffic will not be fun with the JT.

6,000lb billboard behind a Gladiator? I wouldn't be excited about it either.

My subcompact tractor on a flat deck trailer - about 5,600 pounds - I'd pull that. Way less drag on the truck. I don't tow that heavy often at all (it will probably be a couple times a year), but when I do I want the truck to be able to do it.

Let me be clear - if my pockets were deep enough I'd probably do the American thing and buy an L5P Duramax and daily drive it to tow my baby tractor twice a year at 80MPH like it isn't there because I just like big trucks.

But I got other bills to pay and I like my widdle truck

 

[Hendawg_JTR]

Oh, if it was really that simple. If that's all there was to it, if politics and fines and the NHTSA and other factors never entered into it. (can you license that hemi-swapped Gladiator in California?)

I looked into it and getting it to pass smog is the issue. One shop says they can do it, others say smog it in another County, some say it will never fly. So my assumption is no hemi swap in Cali until the gladiator comes from the factory that way. Someone please prove me wrong I'd love some more HP to play with.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Tow rating on smaller tuck like this would really make very little sales difference.
I really do not see tow ratings on trucks like this really mattering to a lot of people.
There is a lot of trucks sold in this country that never tow anything.

You'd be surprised.......... It's a frequent topic here, has been since day one.
I see these things towing fairly often if you drive I80 much.
I tow 6,000 pounds with ease and have done a bit more than that.
It's fine.

Check out the thread here something like "what do you tow with..........." and there's a lot of posts.

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