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Not to mention with the help of the Apple Tag hidden inside
When you enabled your AirTag, it should have had a large and obvious warning telling you that using AirTags to track other people will notify the other person and allow them to disable it (also that it's highly illegal).

As a result, when a car thief steals a car with an AirTag in it, they get a notification on their phone that they are being tracked, giving them the option to disable it.

AirTags in cars are security theater.
 

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The purpose of punishment
is not merely to punish one criminal
for one crime.

Punishment, most importantly,
should serve as a deterrent
to prevent other people
from committing crimes.

Of course for this to work
capture, conviction and punishment
need to be certain and swift.

Public executions would help a lot, too.
 

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In this day and age chases should be limited by some kind of time or distance.

They never end well and the result for the owner is the same either way-a payout that’s not quite enough to replace what was lost.
 

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At 90mph? I don’t know anything about cops in Arkansas but reading these comments it seems like it’s an overzealous police force that needs to pump the brakes literally and figuratively.
Check YouTube, they do it ar 130+
 

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Check YouTube, they do it ar 130+
The goal is clearly to inflict pain and/or death on the fleeing person. The Supreme Court ruled a long time ago you can't shoot an unarmed fleeing suspect in the back and call it defense and yet crashing people who are fleeing is somehow ok? They'll PIT people who aren't even speeding which throws out the argument that THEY are the danger to other motorists. In reality the police create virtually all of the danger to the suspect and every innocent person in the area by these pursuits. Sure if it's a known armed suspect then you can argue it's for public safety. Your average car thief isn't armed or dangerous, targeting parked and unattended vehicles for that reason.
 

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High speed pursuits are stupid,
in my opinion.

The main reason is the risk
to innocent bystanders
and to the law enforcement officers.

Secondly, most car chases probably involve
a stolen vehicle, outstanding warrants
or possession of drugs.
Those do not justify the risk insuant
in high speed pursuits.

Back in the bad old days
they hung horse thieves.
Not because horses were so valuable,
but because they were easily stolen.
It was the lack of respect
that got the horse thief hung.
I feel the same way about car thieves.
The death penalty would greatly reduce
car theft.
Most car chases are because the administration made policies to not chase.
Now the hoodlums think the cops will give up and they won't get caught. There's a reason that 20-30 years ago you rarely saw a chase.
If you chase them AND prosecute them they will be was less likely to do it again.
On another note, I'm a huge fan of "the grappler" check it out on YouTube.
I like it for many reasons, the safety of less/shorter chases, less damage to the police cars, and less risk to the public
 

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The goal is clearly to inflict pain and/or death on the fleeing person. The Supreme Court ruled a long time ago you can't shoot an unarmed fleeing suspect in the back and call it defense and yet crashing people who are fleeing is somehow ok? They'll PIT people who aren't even speeding which throws out the argument that THEY are the danger to other motorists. In reality the police create virtually all of the danger to the suspect and every innocent person in the area by these pursuits. Sure if it's a known armed suspect then you can argue it's for public safety. Your average car thief isn't armed or dangerous, targeting parked and unattended vehicles for that reason.
Don't run, problem solved
 

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Don't run, problem solved
Again only slower... the supreme court has clearly and concisely ruled you can't murder people for running. Why they get a pass because they use taxpayer vehicles to commit homicides not to mention the hundreds of thousands of dollars thrown away from the victims vehicles to the police vehicles to bystanders and other property. And for what? To catch someone guilty of having a warrant, stealing a car, having drugs on them, or simply panicking because they've seen bad cops murder unarmed people too many times in the news? Non-violent crimes should never be met with lethal force period. Now, kick in my door and that's both violent and a threat worth defending against. Car jack someone at gun point, go ahead and play bumper cars with the suspect. The lawsuit referenced earlier the lady literally slowed down and put on her hazards and told the officer she was going to stop at the next exit, making the traffic stop safer for everyone including her, the officer, and other motorists... and he PIT her anyway causing a rollover. The real solution, just like the bad shootings and other terrible police work is dropping qualified immunity and paying out these lawsuits from their pension fund. Over night cops would hold themselves and their coworkers to a much higher standard.
 

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Again only slower... the supreme court has clearly and concisely ruled you can't murder people for running. Why they get a pass because they use taxpayer vehicles to commit homicides not to mention the hundreds of thousands of dollars thrown away from the victims vehicles to the police vehicles to bystanders and other property. And for what? To catch someone guilty of having a warrant, stealing a car, having drugs on them, or simply panicking because they've seen bad cops murder unarmed people too many times in the news? Non-violent crimes should never be met with lethal force period. Now, kick in my door and that's both violent and a threat worth defending against. Car jack someone at gun point, go ahead and play bumper cars with the suspect. The lawsuit referenced earlier the lady literally slowed down and put on her hazards and told the officer she was going to stop at the next exit, making the traffic stop safer for everyone including her, the officer, and other motorists... and he PIT her anyway causing a rollover. The real solution, just like the bad shootings and other terrible police work is dropping qualified immunity and paying out these lawsuits from their pension fund. Over night cops would hold themselves and their coworkers to a much higher standard.
Ok, slowly for you, smart ass.
Google it.
And remember, you started the smartassed answer

Jeep Gladiator Stolen JT in Arkansas dashcam police footage, pit maneuver, rollover, ejection, yikes Screenshot_20251101_170816_Googl
 

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If you listen toward the end of the video you'll hear a somewhat grinding noise. The cop then makes a radio call identifying what you're hearing: agonal breathing. Safe to say the thief shuffled off this mortal coil not long after the video ended.
GOOD!
I hate car thieves.
 

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Ok, slowly for you, smart ass.
Google it.
And remember, you started the smartassed answer

Screenshot_20251101_170816_Google.webp
I've said more than once that they still do it... but it's logically no different than shooting a fleeing suspect in the back which HAS been deemed unconstitutional for decades. Just because they can and do doesn't make it right. Murdering unarmed, non-violent, fleeing suspects is unconstitutional period.
 

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PIT isn't same as shooting. It's no different than an officer tackling someone. Sometimes they may hit their head and die, but that wasn't the intent. PIT isn't considered deadly force. It's literally a 'tackle'
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