Mojave Shocks/Springs Sell Price?

[JET222]

Maybe I am just overthinking all of this. It was much easier on my JKUR, when I was not trying to keep it within stock specs. If I could somehow find out stock spring rate, I could just get the same spring rate in .5 to 1 inch taller springs, and everything would be fine, since it would sit at stock height with the weight.

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[TroutFishingInAmerica]

Well, my oh my, I learned something. I am humbled.

 

[JTpoor]

I might try that. I would be amazing though if I could figure out the coil spring rate, and have some custom triple rates made that would allow for the weight and then when properly loaded, gets me into the stock rate. It is pretty tough getting technical data from Jeep. Corporate tells me to ask a dealer, and the dealer does not have any idea what I am talking about.

That sounds like a lot of work and possibly expense. I was in a somewhat unique position. I had an extra work truck and was in the process of downsizing my construction company when I decided to trade one in and make a work truck out of my JT. I looked and looked at spring rates and tried to determine the validity of making a Gladiator into a semi-used work truck. Finally, after realizing that none of my loads (either hauling or towing) were ever the exact same, I decided to use air bags and can adjust accordingly. It has worked out for me pretty well as those things are so easy to adjust on the fly. Just my 2c

 

[TroutFishingInAmerica]

Now that my pea brain understands the dilemma, this is fascinating. Very interested in the outcome.

 

[Renegade]

Maybe I am just overthinking all of this. It was much easier on my JKUR, when I was not trying to keep it within stock specs. If I could somehow find out stock spring rate, I could just get the same spring rate in .5 to 1 inch taller springs, and everything would be fine, since it would sit at stock height with the weight.

Did you read my previously proposed solution?

 

[JET222]

Did you read my previously proposed solution?

I did. I should have expanded on my response. I thought about adding spacers, but if (mostly sure they are), the current springs are dual rate, I am afraid that the added weight will push me too close to the stiffer rate, which will alter the ride quality. Once again, I am probably over thinking this. It would be nice to hear if someone else on the forum has added the spacers, and extra weight, to see if their ride quality has diminished.

 

[Moe_Fugga]

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/05/07/2020-jeep-gladiator-mojave-suspension-flex-test/

According to this, the rear springs are softer than the Rubicon. Maybe a simple swap will fix your issues?

 

[MoparToYou]

I found with my Mojave that I lost 3/4" in ride height, both front and rear,, compared to stock, after adding a 12k Warn winch and a light weight stubby front bumper, adding the additional weight of a 35" spare tire, and adding the weight of all of my recovery gear, tools, extra fuel carried in the bed, and extra drinking water, along with other gear I take with me on long multi day overlanding trips. The suspension still rides very nice, but with that extra weight the spring rate does feel a little soft. I am not concerned enough to change to springs with a higher rate, but I would like to regain my original ride height. Getting back to the original amount of compression suspension travel before hitting the bump stops would be nice.

I purchased a set of 3/4" spring spacers for this purpose ($69). I don't want a lift, I just want to get back to original height. I don't think anything else will be needed. Since I am returning to stock height I should not need to change track bars, control arms, or anything else. I don't know if I will need some sort of shock extension bracket. I'll have to cycle the suspension to see if shock length is adequate. If shock length is inadequate I'll just take the spacers back out.

Now the hard part is finding the time to install them. It may be several weeks. I am working 24 hour shifts at work. And I just bought a tractor to do some work on my property, and I am spending every spare minute with that, trying to get the work done before the weather turns bad.

 

[Renegade]

I found with my Mojave that I lost 3/4" in ride height, both front and rear,, compared to stock, after adding a 12k Warn winch and a light weight stubby front bumper, adding the additional weight of a 35" spare tire, and adding the weight of all of my recovery gear, tools, extra fuel carried in the bed, and extra drinking water, along with other gear I take with me on long multi day overlanding trips. The suspension still rides very nice, but with that extra weight the spring rate does feel a little soft. I am not concerned enough to change to springs with a higher rate, but I would like to regain my original ride height. Getting back to the original amount of compression suspension travel before hitting the bump stops would be nice.

I purchased a set of 3/4" spring spacers for this purpose ($69). I don't want a lift, I just want to get back to original height. I don't think anything else will be needed. Since I am returning to stock height I should not need to change track bars, control arms, or anything else. I don't know if I will need some sort of shock extension bracket. I'll have to cycle the suspension to see if shock length is adequate. If shock length is inadequate I'll just take the spacers back out.

Now the hard part is finding the time to install them. It may be several weeks. I am working 24 hour shifts at work. And I just bought a tractor to do some work on my property, and I am spending every spare minute with that, trying to get the work done before the weather turns bad.

If you’ve used spacers to put you back at stock ride height, you don’t need shock or bump stop extensions.

 

[MoparToYou]

Thanks Renegade. I've been turning this over in my mind, and wondered if I was overthinking it.

 

[Kev Mojito]

This might help you look at what factory springs can do.
I like to keep it factory, just working on the right springs for what I want to do. I added a winch too and problems started...
For the JT I can only help with the front. You want the 3.0 JLUR springs 3667. They will lift the nose back up to stock or over with the winch and steel bumper. They are on the firm side but do hold the added weight.

As to price on used factory parts:
I pay $200 for fox Rubicon JT shocks (set of 4.) The MSRP for 1 shock is over $500. So, about 20% of MSRP.

 

[Mac]

Surprised to see how tall the JL springs are, has anyone put them on a JT?

 

[Kev Mojito]

Me. You want to buy some JL or JT springs

 

[JTpoor]

This might help you look at what factory springs can do.
I like to keep it factory, just working on the right springs for what I want to do. I added a winch too and problems started...
For the JT I can only help with the front. You want the 3.0 JLUR springs 3667. They will lift the nose back up to stock or over with the winch and steel bumper. They are on the firm side but do hold the added weight.

As to price on used factory parts:
I pay $200 for fox Rubicon JT shocks (set of 4.) The MSRP for 1 shock is over $500. So, about 20% of MSRP.

Wow! That opens up a whole new option for people who want to take a little of the rake out of the JT.

 

[Kev Mojito]

Factory springs are $46-52 brand new online. Cheap and fast and no warranty issues.
If you are running factory bumper no winch go with 3.6 springs, winch and steel bumper 3.0's.

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