Why is Overland the only model to have 18's?

[ShadowsPapa]

One reason why I didn't buy a Wrangler...

And I didn't even scratch my painted roof or fenders hauling it

COOL! Back in the 70s I had a Harley 90. Yeah yeah, it was Italian made and it sounded like a really mad bee when I wound it up hard, but still, a fun bike that went places and was easy to load into the back of a truck and haul out of town. My father worked for AMF for years and when they bought Harley (wasn't good other than saving the company) he got the employee discount on H-D stuff. I was 14 and wanted a NEW bike so he drove me into Des Moines and I bought one.

Also - try stowing THIS into your Wranger or something else.......
(for perspective I'm standing on the stairs going to my garage loft/storage area and the brass and glass oiler on a pipe in the water hopper you could wrap your hand around. The long bungee cord holding the handle up out of way also gives scale)

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[P.Lo]

I really wanted the tan Saddlebag leather interior, and at the time I bought my JT, it was only available on the Overland....... so that's what I bought!
I'm selfish in that way........ like buying a personal car to satisfy me, and nobody else.

 

[Pescado]

Hey! Sounds great! Did you need to add a lift with the 35s? Did you have to re calibrate the speedo? I’d love to put bigger tires on my Overland

I put a 2.5" Terraflex lift on it, I don't think its necessary for 35's though. I'm going to have the speedo recalibrated when I get my steering box replaced later this month. Here's a crappy cell phone pic

 

[DreamedofaJeepSomeday]

Also - try stowing THIS into your Wranger or something else.......
(for perspective I'm standing on the stairs going to my garage loft/storage area and the brass and glass oiler on a pipe in the water hopper you could wrap your hand around. The long bungee cord holding the handle up out of way also gives scale)

Knowing a little about you (from so many posts), I assume you run your hit-miss engines. I once wanted one, but now content to watch (listen!) other people's run.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Knowing a little about you (from so many posts), I assume you run your hit-miss engines. I once wanted one, but now content to watch (listen!) other people's run.

It's been a while, here's from the last show I exhibited at -

My first hit and miss engine bought when I was about 18 from the guy who got me into the hit and miss engines (I had smaller engines, Maytag, Clinton, B&S and so on before this) It's running a power hacksaw cutting scraps of steel for folks to see how it operated - and how it automatically disengaged the belt pulley clutch when the cut was done.
All engines completely restored by me.

I gave a 1.5 hp little brother to this blue one to a friend in Indiana last winter, and delivered it to him. He was thrilled, to say the least.
This 2hp Alamo Blue Line (and the Lindsay-Alamo I gave Ian) were made in Hillsdale, MI.

Early 1930s "mud pump" - Humdinger branded pump, Fairbanks-Morse engine. I have two smaller transfer pumps with cast iron engines branded Humdinger. This was made to pump anything from water, to - you guessed it - sludge and mud.

I sold this John Deere engine a few years back to a fellow from Kentucky I believe he said he was from. The pumpjack it's running was made when JD had just bought the company that made them so has the JD logo but the old manufacturer's name cast on the wheels, too.

Fewer than a dozen or so of this 2hp version of the Chapman survive today......... I wrote a feature article on the finding and restoration of this engine in the 90s for Gas Engine Magazine
Chapman engines were made in Canada by an offshoot of the Ontario Wind Engine and Pump Company.

 

[robinja]

How do you like ...

Original Bridgestone tires were a joke in snow and spun frequently. The Falkens are extreme weather and snow rated. I have had them in mild to moderate snow conditions in Appalachia and they grab nicely. I chalk up any slipping to the lightness of the vehicle itself. Chains can be applied easily if needed and because of the height of the tire side wall they will not contact the wheel itself. These Falken tires are 10 ply which is overkill for a Gladiator, but their rigidity and thickness offer protection on really rough and puncture hazard roads - but you will need to travel slowly as mentioned as the ride is a little more stiff. If you are doing extreme offroading, you will likely want a more pliable tire with thicker tread and one that can run extremely low air pressure without popping the bead. You can compensate for these tires stiffer ride with the right shocks and keeping air pressure on the low side of the acceptable tire spec - 36 to 38 psi. I've put several thousand miles on this set and they show zero signs of wear. They have a 55K warranty and I can see why. I would buy them again. Hope that information helps in your decision making.

 

[j.o.y.ride]

Wait until you put on bigger, wider tires and tell me how much better those paint matched fenders are. If it's a pavement princess, just keeping it mostly stock then the painted fenders are great. Wider tires and going off road, they will get rock chips and scratches like crazy. The rock chips from your wider tires slinging rocks against them. To each there own, but I love the black fenders and top. They show less scuffs and scratches,plus when you rip a fender off on a trail you can find one on your local swap and shop selling site for around $100 for a set.

I probably will replace my fenders but not with Rubicon ones. They wouldn't be wide enough either. But fenders aren't a reason to buy a Rubicon imo. YMMV.

 

[Jeeperjamie]

I probably will replace my fenders but not with Rubicon ones. They wouldn't be wide enough either. But fenders aren't a reason to buy a Rubicon imo. YMMV.

You can get solid colored or the black fenders on a Rubicon and pretty much any other model. I was just saying if your going to take it off road or buy wider tires and wheels then the painted ones are going to get beat up and look worse than the black ones.

 

[j.o.y.ride]

You can get solid colored or the black fenders on a Rubicon and pretty much any other model. I was just saying if your going to take it off road or buy wider tires and wheels then the painted ones are going to get beat up and look worse than the black ones.

The bigger issue for me is the color matched roof. That is hella pricey if have to buy a truck with the black top and then add for full price after.

I'll repaint fenders on occasion as necessary because color matched is so much better looking imo. I will probably replace them, but when I do it will still be white. Even if aftermarket.

 

[Jeeperjamie]

The bigger issue for me is the color matched roof. That is hella pricey if have to buy a truck with the black top and then add for full price after.

I'll repaint fenders on occasion as necessary because color matched is so much better looking imo. I will probably replace them, but when I do it will still be white. Even if aftermarket.

I guess to each their own, if you like the color matched fenders and top cool, I'm not a fan because I plan on using my truck for it's purpose and with the color matched fenders, the paint just doesn't mesh well. Time and time again I see them on the trail with huge gouges and scratches in them, very much noticable. Now don't get me wrong the black ones will do the same thing, but the difference is you can't tell it as bad and if they do start looking really horrible you can find a replacement a lot easier. I'm not knocking anyone for buying a overland, it just wasn't what I wanted. Kinda like buying a Sahara jeep wrangler, I wouldn't do it, but some love them.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

......... I'm not a fan because I plan on using my truck for MY purpose and with the color matched fenders, the paint just doesn't mesh well. ............

Fixed it. For your purposes. Many bought it because it's a TRUCK. You bought it for off-roading.
Funny thing - my Comanche got used off-road a lot - in plowed fields, through the fields, water-ways, ravines, ditches and so on during harvest and planting. I used it to haul tractors on my flatbed, haul grain wagons through the elevator and more.
The sides and fenders never did get beat up - but the back bumper did. I used it to shove a couple of old outbuildings into a hole to burn and bury. I got off-center on one and twisted the back bumper. The part we had to laugh about was that that Jeep truck was used a lot for all sorts of things and the item or thing that finally did damage was an OUTHOUSE.

There are no narrow paths with rocks sticking out on the sides here so no worries about that.

 

[Jeeperjamie]

Fixed it. For your purposes. Many bought it because it's a TRUCK. You bought it for off-roading.
Funny thing - my Comanche got used off-road a lot - in plowed fields, through the fields, water-ways, ravines, ditches and so on during harvest and planting. I used it to haul tractors on my flatbed, haul grain wagons through the elevator and more.
The sides and fenders never did get beat up - but the back bumper did. I used it to shove a couple of old outbuildings into a hole to burn and bury. I got off-center on one and twisted the back bumper. The part we had to laugh about was that that Jeep truck was used a lot for all sorts of things and the item or thing that finally did damage was an OUTHOUSE.

There are no narrow paths with rocks sticking out on the sides here so no worries about that.

I totally agree, use it for your purpose and buy whichever one best suits your needs. For me I didn't want power windows, power locks, just the basics, for one because I ended up removing most of what was on my JKU and building it the way I wanted it and beat that thing up, ripped my fair share of fenders of of it, put metal fenders on it and then went back to plastic black fenders because the narrow metals fenders allowed to many rock songs on the side of the JKU because of the wider tires and wheels. Heck if I could of got it without AC I would of been fine, I rode around for 70,000 miles without the AC working on the JKU, it wasn't even working when I sold it to the dealership. I got the BMW 440I for luxury and the Mustang for speed, I got the JT to have fun in off road and for Hauling purposes, not so much towing as I run a Full time cleaning business and I need it to load up my floor equipment.

Basically this picture sums it up. I like vehicles to be personal to me so I change a lot on them. It wouldn't make sense for me to buy a overland and then rip the carpet out of it to bedline the floor, rip the painted fenders off, front bumper, rear bumper and regear it, you see where this is going. If I was leaving it stock or if it was up to my wife I'd own one.

 

[Indavis01]

I have 35” Falkens on mine with no lift, I like the look and those tires don’t rub anywhere for me.

Though, I’m looking to swap to a Venator bumper with winch and suspect I may need to lift at the point for the extra weight.

Venator/winch 2.5 lift, Overland. The bumper itself is pretty light (most of it is the giant super heavy hooks that bolt straight on to the frame), and adding the winch after the lift didn't bring the front end down at all.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Basically this picture sums it up. I like vehicles to be personal to me so I change a lot on them. It wouldn't make sense for me to buy a overland and then rip the carpet out of it to bedline the floor, rip the painted fenders off, front bumper, rear bumper and regear it, you see where this is going. If I was leaving it stock or if it was up to my wife I'd own one.

Yup - which brings up another reason we have Overland vs. just for example, a Sport without power windows, etc.
My wife - she was born with a handicap and the law sees it as a hinderance to her being able to or not being able to do certain things. Granted, she can't be in the passenger seat and operate manual windows - her right arm won't allow it. Driver side - she can awkwardly operate manual window there but why when there are power windows? I put power windows and locks in my SX4 from an Eagle Limited to make it easier for her.
Transmission - I like a manual, but then towing is reduced in these and other trucks, plus, legally the idiots at DOT saw her arms and said - you are restricted to automatic. Uh, DUH, you idiots, a column shift auto is on the right side of the column - geesh, what the hell is the difference? But her license has a legal restriction so if anything happens and she's caught with a stick, she can get a ticket. What idiots. CAN she drive a stick? Is she able - hell yes. She drove my Comanche with T5 all over creation. She drove my 1936 F20 with HAND BRAKES (one for each side) and hand throttle and hand timing and NO power steering 1/4 of the way across Polk county when we moved. A hassle, yes, and she has to reach over with her left arm to do some things, but don't ever tell that woman she can't do something.
So for this truck, I am the sort of guy I plan for any future - even for no future for myself. So everything we own is in both names, and vehicles I try to make it so she could, if necessary, drive or even keep any of them after I'm gone. My SX4 she loves, but it's a 5 speed stick. So - I kept an automatic transmission, NOS shifter and all the stuff to convert so if I'm gone and she decides she wanted to keep the car, a friend will swap it to an automatic for her. Doubtful as she will have her GC and the JT if she decides to keep it, or my WJ.
But a lot of this was a joint decision, and because frankly I don't want to stick her with a vehicle she doesn't like or can't drive (legally - again a bunch of BS but hey, it's the law)

I also don't mind some luxury. I grew up without. My parents barely getting by and I mean barely. We never had anything new at all. I had to go for scholarships and work my way through college, parents couldn't help at all. I was determined to not have to live like that forever.
Finally I can do it - I can have something nice. And it's time to have fun. MY version of fun.

If I get to take this thing on some trails - COOL, I'd like to - but the closest is hours away, about a day's drive from what I see. Look at the Jeep trail maps - south side of MO, maybe into Indiana, whatever. Maybe we'd take this up to Alaska at some point - we were there in 2018 but it was a group tour thing - too restrictive. We want to go again, on our own, and see more nature, wilderness, wildlife.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Venator/winch 2.5 lift, Overland. The bumper itself is pretty light (most of it is the giant super heavy hooks that bolt straight on to the frame), and adding the winch after the lift didn't bring the front end down at all.

I have a winch sitting here (about 80 pounds) and a bumper on order (about 75 pounds) and a skid plate (?? pounds) - have Rubicon springs up front, 3/4" spacers to use if necessary. Might be glad I bought the spacers with about 150-170 pounds going on the front, and if I buy a plow for it...... that's another reason I wanted a small truck you could see out of and maneuver more easily.....

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