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I got the point completely. Some stuff got screwed up because he went mud slinging. FCA warranty got it back running and now he's having other issues. They flagged his vehicle because of misuse and now his warranty is pretty much voided. It sucks but that sounds about like what should of happened. Even if some of the stuff isn't because of the mud, don't give the reason to say it is because of the mud and you don't got nothing to worry about.
I guess I just think that there didn’t seem to be enough damage to justify the warranty flag. In the end we’re talking about an alternator as being the only thing replaced to get the vehicle back to 100% at that time.
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I mean, let’s be honest, sure the alternator is up high, but that’s just so Jeep can meet it’s advertised fording depth, it’s not like it protected in some steel vault. It’s still open to all the elements unlike most of the electronics which are actually sealed.
Mud slinging like he was doing constitutes intentional misuse weather is was intentional or not. If he was going 5-10 mph then I'd say ok, he was taking it easy going through the puddle. Normal driving conditions on and off road would not require you to plow through mud like that. That's where the misuse comes into play and that's why the warranty got voided.
 

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Mud slinging like he was doing constitutes intentional misuse weather is was intentional or not. If he was going 5-10 mph then I'd say ok, he was taking it easy going through the puddle. Normal driving conditions on and off road would not require you to plow through mud like that. That's where the misuse comes into play and that's why the warranty got voided.
I’ll keep that in mind while I take my “Trail Rated” Gladiator down the Rubicon trail. ?
 

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I guess I just think that there didn’t seem to be enough damage to justify the warranty flag. In the end we’re talking about an alternator as being the only thing replaced to get the vehicle back to 100% at that time.
Sure at the time l, but FCA has protect themselves incase something else comes up, that's why it got flagged. Any dealership/ car manufacturer is going to do that. I remember people were not using the Superchips flashpaqs like they were supposed to and bricking their Jeep's a few years back and those things would be fixed but then your warranty would get flagged after the fact because of the aftermarket flash to the computer. Warranties were voided and I know of more than one person who had issues getting transmission work done under warranty because of it. Just one of those things you got to be smart about.
 

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I’ll keep that in mind while I take my “Trail Rated” Gladiator down the Rubicon trail. ?
I know guys who have done the Rubicon trail and you can do it and not mud sling, just saying. Just gotta be smart about it. I get what your saying as well. Not saying I 100% like the situation this dude's going through and I hate siding with FCA on anything but I have to agree with this one.
 

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@Jeeperjamie Maybe there is just something wrong with the way my brain is processing these things. I actually would completely understand the warranty flag from flashing a computer or supercharging or whatnot.

Maybe it’s the implied use of these vehicles from Jeep that I can’t comprehend the warranty flag for using it like they more or less advertise them to be used for. I understand what they cover under warranty does not align with that implied use but I feel like they are punishing this guy for it.

It equates to buying a red eye challenger with a factory race mode and them voiding your warranty because you put it in that mode.

EDIT: probably not a true comparison. A more fair comparison would be putting it in race mode, going to the drag strip and breaking an axle.
 

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The "saw it in a commercial" thing won't hold up in court either. Queue the idiots that ran their F150 Raptor's at 100 MPH through the desert slamming 12" kickers that resulted in bent frames. The only defect in those trucks was the person between the steering wheel and seat. They sued Ford. They lost.

Or the guys that literally exploded the rear diff's in their Hellcat Redeye's.
Plus, most of the time commercials have that disclaimer. Not the one with the JT speeding through the woods, that had no disclaimer. I even emailed Jeep about it, asking where that was, speed, etc. They said that info was unavailable cause the ad was done by a 3rd party, but encouraged me to have fun with my JT
 

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@Jeeperjamie Maybe there is just something wrong with the way my brain is processing these things. I actually would completely understand the warranty flag from flashing a computer or supercharging or whatnot.

Maybe it’s the implied use of these vehicles from Jeep that I can’t comprehend the warranty flag for using it like they more or less advertise them to be used for. I understand what they cover under warranty does not align with that implied use but I feel like they are punishing this guy for it.

It equates to buying a red eye challenger with a factory race mode and them voiding your warranty because you put it in that mode.

EDIT: probably not a true comparison. A more fair comparison would be putting it in race mode, going to the drag strip and breaking an axle.
It states right in the Hellcat Redeye manual that racing it voids the warranty. Or more specifically that damages incurred while racing will not be covered. Hence the people that blew up their rear at the track were butthurt.
 

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So when his back window starts leaking it shouldn’t be covered by warranty because he went mudding one time...? I get that he is responsible to some degree but voiding entire warranty as a blanket seems like overkill. Not sure what else the dealer could do but seems like there must be a middle ground..
 

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So when his back window starts leaking it shouldn’t be covered by warranty because he went mudding one time...? I get that he is responsible to some degree but voiding entire warranty as a blanket seems like overkill. Not sure what else the dealer could do but seems like there must be a middle ground..
When it's voided it's voided there is no middle ground. When a manufacturer decides to void a factory warranty the whole thing gets voided. The only option at this point would be to purchase a after market warranty and say there is nothing wrong with JT. Wait a few months and file a claim,that would technical be fraud but be better than paying the bill.
 

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I think it’s BS, out using it like the commercials and the POS breaks doing what it’s for, off roading.

Hind site, always just have them haul it home, wash it then have them come get it from there and say won’t run with no comments. The thought warranty is to only cover pavement princess driving is crap, ever use your lockers going to work? 99% won’t unless they have snow in their driveway and I live in snow country. Why give us a warranty then, if it breaks while getting used by the owner during the factory warranty period this should be covered. Maybe Jeep needs to add a splash guard or better drainage in engine bay so the rest of us don’t have this failure


Yes this is absolutely warranty. If we were driving to work in the rain and went through a puddle and this happened that’s ok but not this? Total shit move by the dealer, please blackball them.

If I go to Moab and my front locker blows rock crawling up a granite face that’s ok because not covered in mud or water?


Where is Jeep cares on this, I’m following this as I will never buy another one if this is how we get treated, this is not a “Jeep Thing”!!! Dont care if there’s more to this story or not, it’s wrong what they did.
 

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I mean not to be that guy. But why on earth would you expect the dealership or anyone else to pay for the damages? You posted photo evidence above of the abuse even... If I drive an axe though my door should I expect it to be covered under warranty? A lawyer will laugh you off, just pay the damages and chalk it up as a learned lesson. Best of luck, hope the truck is repaired and operating properly for you.
really? He drove through mud in a stock truck!! Hopefully you don’t drive in a rain storm and get your alternator wet as you will be in same boat based on your opinion.

If an axe goes through his door that’s on him or his insurance. Just like if while mudding he crashed into a tree. Totally not the same and is clearly an apple and orange comparison and you know it.

OP, please sue them both, the bad dealer that tagged your vehicle and Jeep and then go buy the new Bronco!!
 

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really? He drove through mud in a stock truck!! Hopefully you don’t drive in a rain storm and get your alternator wet as you will be in same boat based on your opinion.

If an axe goes through his door that’s on him or his insurance. Just like if while mudding he crashed into a tree. Totally not the same and is clearly an apple and orange comparison and you know it.

OP, please sue them both, the bad dealer that tagged your vehicle and Jeep and then go buy the new Bronco!!
Oh, so I guess the giant mud puddle was in the middle of the road on the way to work and he didn’t intentionally go out of his way to drive through large mud puddles. Ignorance isn’t a defense. You should educate yourself on the fact that mud can and will destroy your vehicle BEFORE taking it out back and beating the brakes off it in a mud pit. It’s really not an apples to oranges comparison. He partook in an activity that had a high chance of damaging his vehicle. Just as if I was to swing an axe at my door. Just because you CAN doesn’t mean you SHOULD. To expect the dealer to cover your poor choice and misuse of your vehicle under warranty is unreasonable.
 

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I think it’s BS, out using it like the commercials and the POS breaks doing what it’s for, off roading.

Hind site, always just have them haul it home, wash it then have them come get it from there and say won’t run with no comments. The thought warranty is to only cover pavement princess driving is crap, ever use your lockers going to work? 99% won’t unless they have snow in their driveway and I live in snow country. Why give us a warranty then, if it breaks while getting used by the owner during the factory warranty period this should be covered. Maybe Jeep needs to add a splash guard or better drainage in engine bay so the rest of us don’t have this failure


Yes this is absolutely warranty. If we were driving to work in the rain and went through a puddle and this happened that’s ok but not this? Total shit move by the dealer, please blackball them.

If I go to Moab and my front locker blows rock crawling up a granite face that’s ok because not covered in mud or water?


Where is Jeep cares on this, I’m following this as I will never buy another one if this is how we get treated, this is not a “Jeep Thing”!!! Dont care if there’s more to this story or not, it’s wrong what they did.
Your not going to splash stuff up into your engine bay and f up the alternator by driving on the road. Failing lockers is a different story, unless you've banged your axle on something and done damage to it and they can see it then your probably not getting that covered either. Misuse and abuse is what it is. If you abuse your jeep and mess something up then don't cry when you come out of pocket to fix it. You gotta pay to play, especially if you play hard.

Hey guess what, if you decide to not buy another one then I think FCA will be just fine without your business. Most of us living in a sane reality know the limits.
 

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I think it’s BS, out using it like the commercials and the POS breaks doing what it’s for, off roading.

Hind site, always just have them haul it home, wash it then have them come get it from there and say won’t run with no comments. The thought warranty is to only cover pavement princess driving is crap, ever use your lockers going to work? 99% won’t unless they have snow in their driveway and I live in snow country. Why give us a warranty then, if it breaks while getting used by the owner during the factory warranty period this should be covered. Maybe Jeep needs to add a splash guard or better drainage in engine bay so the rest of us don’t have this failure


Yes this is absolutely warranty. If we were driving to work in the rain and went through a puddle and this happened that’s ok but not this? Total shit move by the dealer, please blackball them.

If I go to Moab and my front locker blows rock crawling up a granite face that’s ok because not covered in mud or water?


Where is Jeep cares on this, I’m following this as I will never buy another one if this is how we get treated, this is not a “Jeep Thing”!!! Dont care if there’s more to this story or not, it’s wrong what they did.
I think it’s BS, out using it like the commercials and the POS breaks doing what it’s for, off roading.

Hind site, always just have them haul it home, wash it then have them come get it from there and say won’t run with no comments. The thought warranty is to only cover pavement princess driving is crap, ever use your lockers going to work? 99% won’t unless they have snow in their driveway and I live in snow country. Why give us a warranty then, if it breaks while getting used by the owner during the factory warranty period this should be covered. Maybe Jeep needs to add a splash guard or better drainage in engine bay so the rest of us don’t have this failure


Yes this is absolutely warranty. If we were driving to work in the rain and went through a puddle and this happened that’s ok but not this? Total shit move by the dealer, please blackball them.

If I go to Moab and my front locker blows rock crawling up a granite face that’s ok because not covered in mud or water?


Where is Jeep cares on this, I’m following this as I will never buy another one if this is how we get treated, this is not a “Jeep Thing”!!! Dont care if there’s more to this story or not, it’s wrong what they did.
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