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I think this is the idea right here but in the sense that a full EV would probably do 90% of the driving for most people and that’s the group that manufacturers will cater to. I’d love to know the solution for that 10% of driving we do though. Someone else had brought up the small displacement engine to charge the batteries. I always wondered why they never did a thing like the train locomotives where the Diesel engine just powers the electric motors that drive it.
BMW I3 has it and Mazda is developing a similar system with a rotary.
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Again, longer range batteries will allow further adoption before the public charging infrastructure is drastically increased. This is easily accomplished with owners charging at home. Solar panels on single family homes will also in many cases entirely offset the electricity for charging EVs. I say that from experience, having had two EV’s and solar on our roof before a recent move. Our electric bills in that modest ranch house averaged between 0 and 80 dollars per month, and that was in Florida, with A/C and an electric pool pump. Solar panels are on our very short list for our current house.
I could see that option as more viable than waiting on the grid to build out. The next home I buy or build is going to be looking into Solar Panels. Even if I can't have them on the house hoping to have enough land and space that I could put panels in the yard or something like that. As well as a natural gas backup gen tied into the house.
 

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A 240v charger shouldn’t cost you more than $500 or so to have one at home. Public charging is absolutely lacking, but almost all EV owners, including us, have plenty of range for the daily miles, and do our charging when we get home. We’ve never once felt the need to use a public charger in order to have enough range. I laugh a bit when I see Tesla owners hanging out at the public chargers near the Starbucks. I think it’s more of a social thing for them, but I hate Tesla’s, so maybe I’m biased.

One issue is people living in apartments. EV works fine for suburban homes but retrofitting parking spaces in apartments complexes will be a lot of work. Charging in off peak hours also is going to mitigate the load on the grid. It will be interesting to see how it unfolds gas vehicles are going to have to be around for a while but it will definitely be very discouraged. I just wish that they would let the consumer decide on the product instead of forcing the hand of the automakers with these crazy fleet mileage requirements. I would/will buy an ev for my everyday commuter use or a 4xe type car that I can drive a short distance on battery since my normal range would be covered. If it was perfected where it could be used without issue on longer range overland trips and not give up anything than that would be awesome.

In the colder states EV's are an issue in the winter. The nice part of the gas engine is that its byproduct is heat. But maybe climate change will make this less of an issue. Running ev heat and the colder temps is going to kill range.
 

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One issue is people living in apartments. EV works fine for suburban homes but retrofitting parking spaces in apartments complexes will be a lot of work. Charging in off peak hours also is going to mitigate the load on the grid. It will be interesting to see how it unfolds gas vehicles are going to have to be around for a while but it will definitely be very discouraged. I just wish that they would let the consumer decide on the product instead of forcing the hand of the automakers with these crazy fleet mileage requirements. I would/will buy an ev for my everyday commuter use or a 4xe type car that I can drive a short distance on battery since that is what I do mostly every day. If it was perfected where it could be used without issue on longer range overland trips and not give up anything than that would be awesome.

In the colder states EV's are an issue in the winter. The nice part of the gas engine is that its byproduct is heat. But maybe climate change will make this less of an issue. Running ev heat and the colder temps is going to kill range.
ChargePoint will deal with apartment complexes or condo associations for you. They make it quite easy. Essentially they then charge low amounts for charging, allowing them to install many times without any cost to the association.

If no new rules were put in place, no change would occur. People are set in their ways, and are lazy when it comes to change unfortunately.
 

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I’m excited for an inline 6. It’s my favorite motor configuration. I may have to trade in my JT for a new one in a few years once I see what it offers.
 

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Think that won't happen to gas/diesel too? Think again. Think they'll impose a new tax on cars because with higher mpg fleets in the US they’re losing money.
in other words- good donkey- chase carrot win prizes. New prize is more new forms of tax

EV still comes out ahead, without money going to the middle east.
 

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They have. The Chevy Volt was based on exactly that. When the approximately 40 miles of range was exhausted, the 1.2L 4 cylinder turned on and acted as a generator. The gas engine never provided propulsion, ever. Only electric propulsion. It just provided battery charge. It was a very nice drivetrain.
I would sign up for that in a JT without question.

... If they had it in Gator.
 

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Eventually, diesel and gas will end up being phased out, very similarly to how it happened with leaded gas. And I firmly believe diesel will be first on the chopping block. People like to tout fuel economy with diesel, but it’s more polluting, so will be phased out sooner I believe. The battery ranges and charging infrastructure aren’t there yet, but battery ranges and quick charging are close. I agree that EVs will be taxed for road maintenance, but that’s likely to be done in price per kilowatt of charging, just like price per gallon of combustible fuel. Expecting the IRS or states to tax people based on reported mileage of EVs isn’t scalable.
Electric vehicles tested only lost about 12 percent of range in the cold while running with their heaters switched off, compared to 41 percent with the climate control in use.
 

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Electric vehicles tested only lost about 12 percent of range in the cold while running with their heaters switched off, compared to 41 percent with the climate control in use.
A 41% drop in range for the gasser is going from 17mpg to 10. Pretty normal for towing mode from what has been written.
 

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Tin Foil Hat time. Late last century, the Exhalted Walter Cronkite lent his voice to the climate babble. He opposed a wind farm 35 miles out from Martha's Vinyard because it would "spoil the view". This same myopic view was used by the former governor, Mark Sanford, to effectively kill the same proposal for the SC coast. Six feet off the sand has the horizon at about 3 miles out unless you are a flat earther.
 

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In my case it's a Toyota 5.7L iForce. Now that the 2022+ will never have a V8 again I figure these will be a little more special going forward.
i saw your video but i guess i missed it, I thought the toyota was a further rental until your gladiator was done. Did I get that wrong?
 

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i saw your video but i guess i missed it, I thought the toyota was a further rental until your gladiator was done. Did I get that wrong?
It's turned into a saga. Stay tuned...
 

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According to Stellantis the gme t6 went in to production november 22nd, shouldn't have long to wait to see it in action in that case.
I know. Makes me wonder though what model would see it first. I wouldn’t think they’d roll it out mid model year. I’m thinking the Grand Cherokee will see it first since it hasn’t launched yet. Other than that, I wonder if we’ll have to wait for the next model year to see it in the models they listed.
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